YAM,
I was wondering what the process for a person living in the UK is for joining the Ismaili Religion? What is the length of the process and who can be contacted to get the information.
My friend in a unique situation where he is leaving the country (UK) and would not be near a khane for some years and would like to get married to his partner after doing the conversion.
I hope to get this information soon and thank you in advance.
Conversion Process...
Re: Conversion Process...
14 Sessions (classes, 1/day 1-3 hr session) and learning Dua (in Arabic) and meaning in native language (in your case English) is a must.curious_child wrote:YAM,
I was wondering what the process for a person living in the UK is for joining the Ismaili Religion? What is the length of the process and who can be contacted to get the information.
My friend in a unique situation where he is leaving the country (UK) and would not be near a khane for some years and would like to get married to his partner after doing the conversion.
I hope to get this information soon and thank you in advance.
Please go through DOCTRINE >> How to be a Ismaili ? thread; it will give your more info.
Also, some folks do frown on the word-usage of "conversion" the new term is "Admission"
Re: Admission for the reight reason.
Personally, I think that you should not swtich religions just to marry, especially if you care about your own religion. So to answer your question of how etihcal it would be for you to convert just for the sake of marriage, I would say it is not. However, I think the benefit of you converting would be that you may learn and understand our faith and, maybe, even adopt it in your heart.kingnothing wrote:Hi,
I am new into this forum too, i was born in a christian family and i'm not religious myself. My gf is ismaili and and I want to join the ismaili faith, to be able to marry her.
Can you post a link for the Dua please.
As my question is , about how ethical this conversion will be? like just for marriage sake? what do you think?
Re: Admission for the reight reason.
I think if the only reason for converting is marriage, then you will not go very far. I believe the process is quite rigorous in terms of determining the intentions.kingnothing wrote:Hi,
I am new into this forum too, i was born in a christian family and i'm not religious myself. My gf is ismaili and and I want to join the ismaili faith, to be able to marry her.
Can you post a link for the Dua please.
As my question is , about how ethical this conversion will be? like just for marriage sake? what do you think?
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thank you for the information....i knew about that process for Toronto, Canada but thought that it was different in the UK.
Anyways, is there a phone number that can be given for the Khane in London, UK?? I went there once and its quite large...I just forgot the name of it and cannot located it on the database. I would appreciate and also their email contact so I can pass this on to my friend. He has researched the religion and I actually asked if it was only for marriage and although its a part, its not his main reasons which is good.
Anyways, is there a phone number that can be given for the Khane in London, UK?? I went there once and its quite large...I just forgot the name of it and cannot located it on the database. I would appreciate and also their email contact so I can pass this on to my friend. He has researched the religion and I actually asked if it was only for marriage and although its a part, its not his main reasons which is good.
London - Ismaili Centre
The address of The Ismaili Centre is :
1 Cromwell Gardens
London
SW7 2SL Telephone: 020 7581 2071
the receptionist may be able to put you in touch with the right person. to my knowledge there is no e-mail address.
farida
1 Cromwell Gardens
London
SW7 2SL Telephone: 020 7581 2071
the receptionist may be able to put you in touch with the right person. to my knowledge there is no e-mail address.
farida
Conversion to Ismailism
<P>I recently became an Ismaili. I would love to share the experience. What exactly did you want to know?<BR></P>
I apologize at the outset that I am not well-versed in this process of 'admission' or 'conversion'; however, I do have 2 teenage children, and I may be facing a similar situation when they are older!
As an Ismaili mother, I have taught my children that first and foremost, they must have love for their religion, for their Imam, to whom they have given a promise (bayat) that they will pledge themselves to obey Him. Secondly, religion and especially the Ismaili faith, emphasises that the road of faith is between the Allah and that individual--no one accompanies you on the Day of Judgement, so your entry into Ismailism should be one of awareness, of love for the Imam, of understanding why you are pledging what you are pledging.
Islam means submission to the Will of Allah, and though you have to learn the "technicalities", without love or faith in your heart, please do not embrace the faith--God wouldn't want that. Just as if you don't really love a person (love meaning committment and all the responsibilities that come with it), then don't get married--that partner of yours wouldn't want that, would she(he)?
I wish all of you who are entering our faith prayers for your happiness, and may you succeed in your endeavours.
As an Ismaili mother, I have taught my children that first and foremost, they must have love for their religion, for their Imam, to whom they have given a promise (bayat) that they will pledge themselves to obey Him. Secondly, religion and especially the Ismaili faith, emphasises that the road of faith is between the Allah and that individual--no one accompanies you on the Day of Judgement, so your entry into Ismailism should be one of awareness, of love for the Imam, of understanding why you are pledging what you are pledging.
Islam means submission to the Will of Allah, and though you have to learn the "technicalities", without love or faith in your heart, please do not embrace the faith--God wouldn't want that. Just as if you don't really love a person (love meaning committment and all the responsibilities that come with it), then don't get married--that partner of yours wouldn't want that, would she(he)?
I wish all of you who are entering our faith prayers for your happiness, and may you succeed in your endeavours.
When i first wanted to convert, it was for my girlfriend/ wife to be, because it meant a to her.
However as long as i read aboutt he faith, and his highness the agha khan, and after i sw the good he is making around the world, i grew a love for him and for the faith. Now i have three reasons to convert.
However as long as i read aboutt he faith, and his highness the agha khan, and after i sw the good he is making around the world, i grew a love for him and for the faith. Now i have three reasons to convert.
I was in a class of roughly 16 people. 8 of us were converting, the other 8 were our partners. We were a very ethnically diverse group and all in different stages of our lives. Some of us married, some dating, some engaged, some married with a baby on the way. Your experience will likely be similar.
As for the classes, don't worry about the history, that will be taught. The format is typically lecture followed by a question-answer period. As for how long it took, there are 14 weeks of classes .. each roughly 2 hours long. You must recite D'ua before you can have your final interview. (Dua is taught in the classes.) Finally you will have your bayat. The whole process in total can take up to 6 months.
Hope this helps.
As for the classes, don't worry about the history, that will be taught. The format is typically lecture followed by a question-answer period. As for how long it took, there are 14 weeks of classes .. each roughly 2 hours long. You must recite D'ua before you can have your final interview. (Dua is taught in the classes.) Finally you will have your bayat. The whole process in total can take up to 6 months.
Hope this helps.
joseph wrote:YAM,
Im starting the process in 3 weeks, just want to know how was it, how long did it take you? and how much history you are supposed to now.
Thank you