nuseri wrote:Ya Ali Madad.
We have a trinity words for zikr that ALI,MOHAMMED AND ALLAH.if they have equal wieghtage so they are same.
We seek grace,forgiveness,and blessings from the LIVING not the anyone dead or unseen and unknown.
So the central name is YA ALI.
Allah word is penultimate name same as 349 names of Gods as said and introduced by many prophets.
The word Allah in absolute truth is Ali+lah =Allah,or 1+0=1.
For me if I say the word Allah ,it by default by nostrils and mind intake ALI and 'KICK OUT' lah from that word.Same is for everyone ,but realization is not there.
As in nature we breathe only oxygen and not nitrogen, carbons,me then gas ,but in general we breathe Air ( Allah)
simple example .if we mail three envolepes with three names of trinity on each separately, the final destination is the SAME.
That is tariqat.but to find which has ability to read and response that search and final answer is HAQIQAT.one is gone and dead,other cannot be seen, assumed or even vusulized.in Quran ,in different ayats God has given description of his face,hands,ears,speech,he walked.sitting on throne ,collating that and reaching the truth is Haqiqat.
a simple question.
If a child ask his father is he drinking water or H2O which he just learned in school?
What would his father reply be?
So a poem starting with the word Allah at primary is a must and important to validate the holy book and prophet and Imams.let the child grow that water in truth is H2O.
Allah is nothing but a brand,covered and signature name of ALI used by him in the final book.
Ali also different names of his to earlier prophets.
No rocket science in this.
Why you keep posting same post in different threads. Nothing new!! same analogies; water, H2O, 349 names, brand name, 1+0, Ali+Lah, dead of past and so on. Let me counter your analogies.
In modern maths 1+0 is equal to 10.
There are not just 349 names of God, but in different languages these are more than 100x1000s even more.
You keep writing Ali+Lah without paying attention to formation of word. Before Prophet Muhammad, the name of main idol was Al-ilah. What you did moved the letter "i" to left and added with Al making it Ali+lah. You are not realizing that you are equating Al-ilah = to Ali-lah. You are equating Ali with idol.
What ever elements present in universe are compounded in human body, it is not just H2O, but these are carbon, sulphur, helium, phosphorus, gold, silver, count 107 plus (may be more).
Ismailis believe in brand name of Allah and not in generic names. Brand is original and generics are less effective with side effects.
You wrote," We seek blessings from living and not the dead, unseen and unknown." Na'uzubillah, if you think God is dead and Prophet too means you are rejecting the 3rd entity too. If you disappear 2, the 3rd will automatically disappear because you are equating zikr of 3 names with different entities.
You admitted in your above post," The word Allah is absolute Truth." It shows Allah is settled permanently in your sub conscious.