Asal Makan

[barkat_ali]

Kindly refer to the Farmans of&nbsp; Imam-e-Zaman,<BR>How many people got Asal Makan?<BR>1. Hazarat Essa A.S<BR>2. Hazarat Muhammad S.A.S<BR>3.Salaman Farsi<BR>4. Mowlana Roomi<BR>5. Mansoor-ul-Hajaj<BR>6. Peer Shamas<BR>7. Peer Sadrddin<BR>8. Nasir Khusro<BR>9. Waras Saley<BR>and some more<BR><BR>So far How many people came in this world ?<BR>what is the ratio of success ?<BR><BR>Should we not try for asal Makan?<BR><BR>Imam says give consontration to Sufisum ( I think we should read Dictionary of Islam by Thomas and read about Sufisum)<BR><BR>Seek for Aasal Makan<BR><BR>"SARI DUNYA NEE LIZAT THEE DOOR RAHEY, A-VO ROZO RAKHE TO BATANI AANKH AND KAN CHEY TEY KHULEY"<BR><BR>

[Guest]

I would say there are two High places when we die.

One is what we call Amar Shanti and this is probably the idea of God the Attributes.

But even Higher is the aspect of God which is the Essence and this is what we call Asal [Origin]

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[shamsu]

ASAL MAKAN = LA MAKAN

As long as there is an observer there is the observed i.e. duality

AHAD = unitary/solitary/only One

"Ka su milu kasu risu ka su lau preet, jehan dekhu wahan Tu hi Tu..."

Kalame Mowla ALy (salwat)
"Mai aur Tu ki doori cchor, ek deekh kuch do nahi
Aisa samaj, fana ho usme, tu nahi to Woh sahi hai"

".....Deh(body), mai pan(ego self) se hath uthao, to baki hai sab Rubb ka zahoor(manifestation of the sustainer)"

[ANILALI4U]

i think theres o&shy;nly two things when we die; either we come back to this world or we go to asal makam, because in faramin it says janat is in this world.

[Guest]

i think theres o&shy;nly two things when we die; either we come back to this world or we go to asal makam, because in faramin it says janat is in this world.

The earth, heavens, hell are created by His soul - Asal Makan is the main soul of God from where we have come. So earth, heavens, hells, etc. are connected with the one soul in which we live - everything is here / hell, heaven, asal makan, etc. - The stations are different. India, America, Poland, etc. etc.

[shamsu]

i think theres o­nly two things when we die; either we come back to this world or we go to asal makam, because in faramin it says janat is in this world.

The earth, heavens, hell are created by His soul - Asal Makan is the main soul of God from where we have come. So earth, heavens, hells, etc. are connected with the one soul in which we live - everything is here / hell, heaven, asal makan, etc. - The stations are different. India, America, Poland, etc. etc.

Imam SMS has advised us to ask for Assal Makaan every time we do sajda.

I think Assal Makaan is to have our will in total submission to the will of Allah and for him to accept this submission.


Mr Guest
How did Allah create his soul?

What is Allah's soul made with?

What is the role of the Kalaam of Allah in creation?

Imam has said in BUK "The soul is born, but never dies." (my understanding of the farman).

Isn't it true that everything that is born has to die?

Since you keep mentioning Soul of Allah I thought I should ask.

[Guest]

i think theres o­nly two things when we die; either we come back to this world or we go to asal makam, because in faramin it says janat is in this world.

The earth, heavens, hell are created by His soul - Asal Makan is the main soul of God from where we have come. So earth, heavens, hells, etc. are connected with the one soul in which we live - everything is here / hell, heaven, asal makan, etc. - The stations are different. India, America, Poland, etc. etc.

Imam SMS has advised us to ask for Assal Makaan every time we do sajda.

I think Assal Makaan is to have our will in total submission to the will of Allah and for him to accept this submission.


Mr Guest
How did Allah create his soul?

What is Allah's soul made with?

What is the role of the Kalaam of Allah in creation?

Imam has said in BUK "The soul is born, but never dies." (my understanding of the farman).

Isn't it true that everything that is born has to die?

Since you keep mentioning Soul of Allah I thought I should ask.

Shamsu - quote the farmans with sr.nos. and other details please.

Quran reveals

Al-Qamar - 54
49) Verily all things have We created in proportion and measure.
50) And Our command is but a single (Act) like the twinkling of an eye.

- so it appears it is by way of thought and will.

Soul does not die. Everyone born has to die.

The soul is created and is given physical form. The soul is given this physical form, which is the time in which we are physically alive on this earth - refer hazar imam farman - 27th november, 1973 - darkhana jamatkhana.

So shamsu - suppose you go on rejecting allah's farmans and give a false meaning to it then quran reveals:

Al-Ahzab - 33
64) Verily Allah has cursed the Unbelievers and prepared for them a Blazing Fire

65) To dwell therein forever: no protector will they find nor helper.

- to dwell therein forever - hey that is permanent -- yes - soul does not die you see so permanent.

[Guest]

I have noticed that the Admin or Moderator, i.e. Umed, has started deleting my postings judging it from his point of view even though his point of view goes against the farman and the quran, I am no longer interested in posting in the forum.