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Asal Makan
Kindly refer to the Farmans of Imam-e-Zaman,<BR>How many people got Asal Makan?<BR>1. Hazarat Essa A.S<BR>2. Hazarat Muhammad S.A.S<BR>3.Salaman Farsi<BR>4. Mowlana Roomi<BR>5. Mansoor-ul-Hajaj<BR>6. Peer Shamas<BR>7. Peer Sadrddin<BR>8. Nasir Khusro<BR>9. Waras Saley<BR>and some more<BR><BR>So far How many people came in this world ?<BR>what is the ratio of success ?<BR><BR>Should we not try for asal Makan?<BR><BR>Imam says give consontration to Sufisum ( I think we should read Dictionary of Islam by Thomas and read about Sufisum)<BR><BR>Seek for Aasal Makan<BR><BR>"SARI DUNYA NEE LIZAT THEE DOOR RAHEY, A-VO ROZO RAKHE TO BATANI AANKH AND KAN CHEY TEY KHULEY"<BR><BR>
LA MAKAN
ASAL MAKAN = LA MAKAN
As long as there is an observer there is the observed i.e. duality
AHAD = unitary/solitary/only One
"Ka su milu kasu risu ka su lau preet, jehan dekhu wahan Tu hi Tu..."
Kalame Mowla ALy (salwat)
"Mai aur Tu ki doori cchor, ek deekh kuch do nahi
Aisa samaj, fana ho usme, tu nahi to Woh sahi hai"
".....Deh(body), mai pan(ego self) se hath uthao, to baki hai sab Rubb ka zahoor(manifestation of the sustainer)"
As long as there is an observer there is the observed i.e. duality
AHAD = unitary/solitary/only One
"Ka su milu kasu risu ka su lau preet, jehan dekhu wahan Tu hi Tu..."
Kalame Mowla ALy (salwat)
"Mai aur Tu ki doori cchor, ek deekh kuch do nahi
Aisa samaj, fana ho usme, tu nahi to Woh sahi hai"
".....Deh(body), mai pan(ego self) se hath uthao, to baki hai sab Rubb ka zahoor(manifestation of the sustainer)"
The earth, heavens, hell are created by His soul - Asal Makan is the main soul of God from where we have come. So earth, heavens, hells, etc. are connected with the one soul in which we live - everything is here / hell, heaven, asal makan, etc. - The stations are different. India, America, Poland, etc. etc.ANILALI4U wrote:i think theres o­nly two things when we die; either we come back to this world or we go to asal makam, because in faramin it says janat is in this world.
Assal Makaan
Anonymous wrote:The earth, heavens, hell are created by His soul - Asal Makan is the main soul of God from where we have come. So earth, heavens, hells, etc. are connected with the one soul in which we live - everything is here / hell, heaven, asal makan, etc. - The stations are different. India, America, Poland, etc. etc.ANILALI4U wrote:i think theres only two things when we die; either we come back to this world or we go to asal makam, because in faramin it says janat is in this world.
Imam SMS has advised us to ask for Assal Makaan every time we do sajda.
I think Assal Makaan is to have our will in total submission to the will of Allah and for him to accept this submission.
Mr Guest
How did Allah create his soul?
What is Allah's soul made with?
What is the role of the Kalaam of Allah in creation?
Imam has said in BUK "The soul is born, but never dies." (my understanding of the farman).
Isn't it true that everything that is born has to die?
Since you keep mentioning Soul of Allah I thought I should ask.
Re: Assal Makaan
Shamsu - quote the farmans with sr.nos. and other details please.shamsu wrote:Anonymous wrote:The earth, heavens, hell are created by His soul - Asal Makan is the main soul of God from where we have come. So earth, heavens, hells, etc. are connected with the one soul in which we live - everything is here / hell, heaven, asal makan, etc. - The stations are different. India, America, Poland, etc. etc.ANILALI4U wrote:i think theres only two things when we die; either we come back to this world or we go to asal makam, because in faramin it says janat is in this world.
Imam SMS has advised us to ask for Assal Makaan every time we do sajda.
I think Assal Makaan is to have our will in total submission to the will of Allah and for him to accept this submission.
Mr Guest
How did Allah create his soul?
What is Allah's soul made with?
What is the role of the Kalaam of Allah in creation?
Imam has said in BUK "The soul is born, but never dies." (my understanding of the farman).
Isn't it true that everything that is born has to die?
Since you keep mentioning Soul of Allah I thought I should ask.
Quran reveals
Al-Qamar - 54
49) Verily all things have We created in proportion and measure.
50) And Our command is but a single (Act) like the twinkling of an eye.
- so it appears it is by way of thought and will.
Soul does not die. Everyone born has to die.
The soul is created and is given physical form. The soul is given this physical form, which is the time in which we are physically alive on this earth - refer hazar imam farman - 27th november, 1973 - darkhana jamatkhana.
So shamsu - suppose you go on rejecting allah's farmans and give a false meaning to it then quran reveals:
Al-Ahzab - 33
64) Verily Allah has cursed the Unbelievers and prepared for them a Blazing Fire
65) To dwell therein forever: no protector will they find nor helper.
- to dwell therein forever - hey that is permanent -- yes - soul does not die you see so permanent.