DAM HAME DAM ALI ALI, by Rumi?

schatoor · Post by **schatoor** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:41 am

Hi,

The qasida "dam hame dam Ali Ali" is atributted to Mawlana Rumi. That evidence is there that Rumi actually wrote this? The only place I can find this Qasida is on Ismaili sites. There is just not more information about this Qasida.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:34 am

Yam,
According to this site http://ismaili.net/mirrors/253_dumhamad ... medum.html
Rumi wrote it, but I would take this site as the last word. For one they call him Mowlana Rumi, when it’s actually Mevlana or Mowlavi. Secondly, and more importantly, Rumi was not ismaili he was sufi. So would we really recite his qasida? My guess it was writen by Pir Nasir Khusraw, like evey other afgan qasida.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:38 am

I meant to say: but I would not take this site as the last word

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 9:22 am

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kmaherali · Post by **kmaherali** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:00 am

Anonymous wrote:Yam,
According to this site http://ismaili.net/mirrors/253_dumhamad ... medum.html
Rumi wrote it, but I would take this site as the last word. For one they call him Mowlana Rumi, when it’s actually Mevlana or Mowlavi. Secondly, and more importantly, Rumi was not ismaili he was sufi. So would we really recite his qasida? My guess it was writen by Pir Nasir Khusraw, like evey other afgan qasida.

"Rumi was not an Ismaili himself, but the murid of an Ismaili"

Sultan Muhammad Shah, First Ismailia Mission Conference, Dar es-Salam 20 July 1945

Although as per the above statement of Mowlana Sultan Muhammad Shah, Rumi was not an Ismaili, he was strongly influenced by Ismaili thought being a disciple of an Ismaili. Indeed Mowlana Sultan Muhammad Shah had strongly recommended that his works be read by the Jamat. For more on this you may want to go to Others -> People -> Jelaluddin Rumi in this forum.

karimqazi · Post by **karimqazi** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:39 pm

Ya Ali Madad to All:

According to my knowledge, dum huma dum ali ali is written by Shams Tabriz who was the teacher of Rumi.

According to the history, Shams Tabriz was realted to our Imams.
I have a book which is published by the Ismaili tarikah board of Pakistan. In that book dum hama dum ali ali is under is under the Shams Tabriz writings. The book's name is "Kithab ul Munakbath" and is written in urdu, page 64. You can also enjoy this qassidah in a wonderful qawali form by Nusrath Fathe Ali Khan. If you have time I highly reccomend that you listen to it.

May Mowla Bless You All....

Karim Qazi

alinizar313 · Post by **alinizar313** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:54 pm

Very true. It is written by Shams Tabriz, the son of our Imam Alaiddin Mohammed. In that perid, there were three Shams. The one was Pir Shamsuddin Sabzvari who wrote the Ginans, The other one was Shams Tabriz, the spiritual Master of Mowlana Room. And third one is our Imam Shamsuddin Mohammed normally known as Shams.

ShamsB · Post by **ShamsB** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:41 am

I believe MSMS also said that we should all read the Mathnavi, he said it was the quran in Farsi...

schatoor · Post by **schatoor** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:53 pm

Thank you so much for all your replies. Really usefull info!

You can also enjoy this qassidah in a wonderful qawali form by Nusrath Fathe Ali Khan. If you have time I highly reccomend that you listen to it.

I would SOOOOO like to get a hold of that! Do you know how I can?

_thaillestlunatic_ · Post by **_thaillestlunatic_** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:45 pm

I might have it in mp3 format

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:37 pm

Ya ali madad, can u pls help me find out the sound of qasida dum hume dum ali ali... is it there on this site? if it is not than pls if u have one than send. i love this song and i am good at singing so i want to sing at my jk majlis.Hoping to hear from you soon... Thank you.

karimqazi · Post by **karimqazi** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:32 pm

YAM to All,

As I mentioned in my previous post, I have this qasida in quwalli from by Nusrat Fateh Ali in the cassete form. I can make a copy and send it to someone in the USA but it cost postage. Please send me a PM if you are interested.

May Mowla Bless You All

thenoor · Post by **thenoor** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:47 pm

Anonymous wrote:Yam, According to this site http://ismaili.net/mirrors/253_dumhamad ... ml Rumi wrote it, but I would take this site as the last word. For one they call him Mowlana Rumi, when it’s actually Mevlana or Mowlavi. Secondly, and more importantly, Rumi was not ismaili he was sufi. So would we really recite his qasida? My guess it was writen by Pir Nasir Khusraw, like evey other afgan qasida.

YAM, First of all, Mowlana, is a phrse used by any Tajik or Turkish at that time (time of Rumi) refering to a teacher or a master, and rumi was obviously refered as such. Recitation of Rumi has nothing to do with being ismili or not, cause anything Rumi had written was for the love of GOD, so any Muslim can recite it! thank you!

ismailisystems · Post by **ismailisystems** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:19 am

i tHINK THAT IT IS WRITTEN BY SHAMS TABREZ BECAUSE IN THE LAST LINE "SHAM-E-GULAM MIKAMBARAT DAM HAME DAM ALI ALI"
iF YOU WANT IN MP3 FORMAT..
http://ismailisystems.multiply.com/music/item/38

THANKYOU...
WITH YAA ALI MADAD...

nidaD · Post by **nidaD** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:46 pm

hi!

I am doing an assignment on this qasida and was wondering if someone could tell me if this qasida is available in print form other than in Kitab al manqabat. The reason why I am asking this is that I have reserached this and on many websites this qasida is attributed to Rumi and the Tariqa board's published book states that it is written by Shams Tabriz. Is it in the Divan-e-Shams Tabrizi?
Can some one also share any biographical information available on Mowlana Rumi and Shams Tabriz.

Thanks

Nida

AmeenKhwaja · Post by **AmeenKhwaja** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:50 pm

Anonymous wrote:Ya ali madad, can u pls help me find out the sound of qasida dum hume dum ali ali... is it there on this site? if it is not than pls if u have one than send. i love this song and i am good at singing so i want to sing at my jk majlis.Hoping to hear from you soon... Thank you.

Here you go:

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www.ismaili.net

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