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well i think this conversation is not o&shy;n Ginan o&shy;nly<BR>this is about belive, authorityof Imam, and rituals<BR>as its a debate of a mix of blended thoughts and religious stuff<BR>it should be allowed to be posted here.<BR><BR>and children after 100 years hehe i think they wont be ne...

just to make one thing clear what ever i m stating is completely from my research and understanding. I m currently in HRE 2 Special classes organized by ITREB Pakistan (Teachers are well known wazeen of our jamat and scholers from IED, AKU ) and also working on different matters in ismailisum at my ...

well if u say so k that is rong let me tell u one thing we are disscussing at this site this is also prohibited by our institutions under direct guidnace from AGLIMONT. (plz do comment on this cuz this was in special order from aglimont and was told to jamat in JKs by MHUKHI SAHBAN). and yes if u sa...

hello brother i m not hurt from u r msg but i will not post more on this as now i have doubt that my opnion may cuz hurt to some one. and as far as Tariqa Board is recent changes made in Ginans are being made cuz of direct orderd from Mowla as in a few ginans PIRS have used Indian God Names so in ac...

well i apologise and take back all my words if that have hurt any one or anyones belief but what ever i have said was totally upon my knowledge and understanding. in accordance with mowla's faramin i have seen many pplz quoting mowla's faramins for many things but then their comments some how negate...

well i apologise and take back all my words if that have hurt any one or anyones belief but what ever i have said was totally upon my knowledge and understanding. in accordance with mowla's faramin i have seen many pplz quoting mowla's faramins for many things but then their comments some how negate...

yam well yeah its truth k Imam Ali's son is not burried there and according to history Hanif also didnt took any part for the revange of KARBALA infect when he was contact by MUKHTAR (the one who rebeled against YAZID) he refused to take over and didnt took any part in politics or any recange. and a...

yar all of u r right and i m right tooo yar every one has rights to understand and have his her own perception about any event. but yar in my sense of study of ismailisum, and mowla's faramins there are diverse practices of ismailisum tooo our fatih is differently practiced in pakistan and differnet...

well no response from Missnairy as his email is not working as far as Ginan and Faramin is i think may be we are saying the same thing but with different words. my one line for ginan and farman is. they are all the way authentic as are by imam and pirs. but instead of getting into its literla meanin...

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Ya Ali Madad Thanx For accepting my views well bhiya mentioning IIS name doesnot mean to rely on them and Farhad Dafry is not even an ismaili. my point is to view thing critically and try to find real meaning out of it and every one around will have his / her own meaning cuz no body's mind is same A...

i have emailed Alwaiz Kamludin and waiting for his response<BR>and also disscussed this with my mom <BR>and according to her in her early days they use to recite gujrati dua <BR>and when they were given a chance to lead jamat in regular dua , Mukhi of the jamat use to chk their gurati dua from a boo...

Ya Ali Madad well as u have commented so now let me re confrim it cuz what ever i told you was told to me(/us as a student of HRE Special 1) just a few months back by Alwaiz Kamaluddin. but still let me reconfirm it and i will come up with the updated info soon. and a theology about acepting Rasools...

well dear brother first thing current arabic dua was given by Hazir Imam some where in 1960s and gujrati dua was given by one of our PIRS and approved by Imam of that Time. and i would request you to please research on it and make u r self correct. and about ginans i have already made my self/ opnio...

yar according to my knowledge please correct me if i m rong Gujrati dua was not given by Imam of that Time infect it was given by PIR and was just approved by imam and same with current dua there was a committee of few ismaili scholars majorly from Syria and Indo-Pak and then dua was presented to MH...

hello friend you are right as far as ginans are concerned my point was which i may wudnt be able to clearyfy is that ginans were used as the tool to convert hindus to muslims (ismailies) and there is a lot of hindu myths in it leading to the revelation of Imam. ginans are not at all only used for co...

yar wut i think or have studied is quran was never into parts when it was revealed it was later when pplz made into parts for the easyness of studying it. so they made thirty , may be quran have 40 parts devinly but humans made it into 30 parts for the easyness to be recited in the motnhs of ramzan ...

Ya Ali saying in any context in my opinion is no way a sin until unless you are saying /doing anything bad towars YA ALI. and Farman of Ya Ali or Ya Ali yar Ya Ali is important cuz u can only recognize Ya Ali from his faramins so i guess both are important to each other. :) take care Ya Ali Madad Nu...

<P>Ya Ali Madad</P><P>hello every o&shy;ne<BR>well .. i read all of your comments n posts <BR>which shows that most of the pplz posting here are ismailies from Africa or Sub Continent<BR>but if we talk about ismailies<BR>ismailies not o&shy;nly live in these places<BR>ismailies are also in Y...