YAM,
Was browsing the net and came across this book (www.mostmerciful.com/understanding-ismailism.pdf).
The writer claims that our religion is fake or wrong or whatever.
Can you please have a look at this and let me know your thoughts.
I was furious to read this book.
Unfaithful people trying to defame ismailism
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dhananiparvez
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YA ALI MADAD
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do u know who this man is??
this man is a formal ismaili..
well, do u expect an ex-ismaili write good abt ismaili ism??
................... ask ur self
i can post many many anti ex muslims site.. so will u leave islam t00. bec they left islam or u may say that "NO RELIGION IS RIGHT, BUT PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING IS WRONG"
so, if u have any question which u think u want to ask , u should ask & ask any al waaaz so that they can give u reply
after all,. u have to seek ur faith 4 ur self
good luck
..
do u know who this man is??
this man is a formal ismaili..
well, do u expect an ex-ismaili write good abt ismaili ism??
................... ask ur self
i can post many many anti ex muslims site.. so will u leave islam t00. bec they left islam or u may say that "NO RELIGION IS RIGHT, BUT PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING IS WRONG"
so, if u have any question which u think u want to ask , u should ask & ask any al waaaz so that they can give u reply
after all,. u have to seek ur faith 4 ur self
good luck
Re: Unfaithful people trying to defame ismailism
Whatever, dude!dhananiparvez wrote:YAM,
Was browsing the net and came across this book (www.mostmerciful.com/understanding-ismailism.pdf).
The writer claims that our religion is fake or wrong or whatever.
Can you please have a look at this and let me know your thoughts.
I was furious to read this book.
Ismailis should - by now, be able to discern what is going on.
Things are getting desperate for Sunni majoritarian followers of Islam, specially those who follow the fundi author of the above mentioned website.
The choice -at the present is clear:
Only ONE madzhab can lead Islam into the future.
And, it is not Sunni Islam or any of its 4 madzhabs or sub-sects.
Their literal sharia (madzhabs) is ridiculously out of touch with Reality. Even the pagan bushman of Kalahari understands the Supreme Being better than these "gone Astray lot".
With the madzhab of Ismailism the teachings are in tune with Universalality, Tolerance, Pluralism. Unlike Ismailism, the Others have rejected the Quranic verses of :
"There is no compulsion in Religion(HQ)"
and, all those verses that emphasize co-existence with others, like:
"whom God has created so that we may cherish & know each other (HQ)".
THe majoritarian's religion is 100% based on:
"Accept Islam or Hell will be your fate - here & hereafter (HQ)".
And, by Islam they mean Sunni Islam.
Good Luck.
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zubair_mahamood
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YAM,
I thank this gay,,,,,,,,,,, plz don’t conclude anything without knowing why I am thanking him.
As I have mentioned it before I had Dedaar of MHI after that I meet my Ismaili friends to discuss my situation and express my will for conversion. As they were from Pakistan and had no knowledge about Traiqah Board for France they said its not possible to convert as according to them in Pakistan they have stop conversion long back in 19th century and advice me to drop my will for conversion or Admission. My quest for truth didn’t stop I was discourage by there advice.
While looking for information on net I came across this interview of a PHD Ismaili convert (http://www.shariati.com/messages/5333.html), I recommend you all to take some time out to read it they are 73 question and answer relating to our Traiqah and believes. Question Number 72 had encouraged me and gave reason to discuss my will with my friends again.
“72. Can I be accepted in the Ismaili faith right away if I wanted to convert?
No! ismailism is a faith of the intellect. It does not encourage blind belief. You would want to read and study the faith for some time. Once you are convinced, based on reason, that it is the right answer for you, then you can apply through the Ismaili Council in your area. You would then be tested on your knowledge of the faith. Always remember that Ismailism is a faith of conviction and not convenience.”
I gave my friends this interview and said conversion is possible. My friends argued saying me that even if I get converted, how I will be able to explain my parents and society, how I will forget my past. They asked me whether I am going to leave my family. I said no but I will not leave Imam, I said, I ask Allah to guide me and I meet Imam so he will guide me I gave my hand in his hand without questioning him so it’s his responsibility that I don’t lose any once hand.
My friend were not convince by me and opposed me decision; then I said if u stop me from admission I will not be your friend any more don’t look life with you’re Zahir vision look it from your Faith then with lot of argument they gave me address of JK and told me about Traiqah Board.
Since that day I am on, knocking the Doors of Ismailies, JK and Traiqah board. I was discouraged many time, my heart was broken many time, some pointed finger at me and some at my family, some times I was so badly heart that I asked why Imam why don’t you reply them for me. Imam replied me with a smile.
I told about Dedaar e Imam and I asked everyone to help me, tell me who is Imam, teach me your prayers, and explain me the concepts, not one replied except few.
I came across this Person who is X Ismaili, Who was an active member of Jamat, whose intention is to stop Ismailies from practicing Ismaili Faith, who criticises our concepts and to whom Imam thanked once by petting his shoulder, who misunderstood Imam and wrote negative about him. As he writes on page 26 (http://www.mostmerciful.com/understanding-ismailism.pdf)
“Shortly after, Karim Aga Khan came to Vancouver and I was invited to a private gathering in West Vancouver to have a Mulaqat (audience) with Karim Aga Khan and discuss the topics of the memorandum submitted earlier. The President who had been very co-operative and friendly introduced me to Aga Khan. I shook his hand and said: "Your Highness, I would like to have a Mulaqat with you". He petted my shoulder with his left hand and said: "Your family has done a great service in India" and extended his right hand to the person next in the line for introduction. Aiglemont (Aga Khan’s office in France), has a big file of my family and me”.
I thank him as when every door to know concepts of Ismailies was closed this person’s website explained Ismaili concepts negatively, I read them asked Imam is it true Imam replied no (although its easy to explain how Imam replied me but its difficult to accept as we live in Zahir world), every concept he explains negatively on his sites was explained positively by Imam to me.
For example
When I wanted to learn Dua and practice it. I read His article on Dua, Mr. X Ismaili explains every part by his mind and commented on there verses. Frankly speaking i felt Dua as poison. I edited six parts made a file of it and started learning it. When I read it for first time I couldn’t believe myself I felt like I am doing a crime against Allah. I started reading it, my eyes were wet, and my heart was not convinced but I did it for Allah, Prophets, Prophet Imams and Imam, and I believed they are with me. After I finished I felt complete, I felt satisfied, and I felt for the first time in my life that I am close to Allah. Then from that day I started reciting Dua Three times a day.
I understood today why Imam thanked him. If Mr. X Ismaili wouldn’t have written this articles I wouldn’t have learned and recite Dua daily. He might be negative, his intention are wrong but he helped me directly or indirectly to reach Imam.
No matter anyone tries hard to stop Ismailies, Ismailies will never stop as Imam Hold every Ismailies hand, its Imam’s responsibility to give hidayath (show his murids right path). Criticism is important; Allah has created everything in pairs. If his criticism is at a side then our belief is on other side. Disbeliveers (I am sorry imam I have no right to use this word) criticised First Prophet Adam to last Prophet Muhammad, from Imam Ali to Imam e Zaman, some don’t believe Allah and critics there creature. Mr. X if you’re reading me I thank you for helping me and advice you to take refuge in MHI. Its Mihraj tonight I will pray to Allah for your forgiveness and for your Hidayath.
May Allah Forgive us and bless everyone with Hidayath and Dedaar e Imam. Amine
SJD
Zubair
I thank this gay,,,,,,,,,,, plz don’t conclude anything without knowing why I am thanking him.
As I have mentioned it before I had Dedaar of MHI after that I meet my Ismaili friends to discuss my situation and express my will for conversion. As they were from Pakistan and had no knowledge about Traiqah Board for France they said its not possible to convert as according to them in Pakistan they have stop conversion long back in 19th century and advice me to drop my will for conversion or Admission. My quest for truth didn’t stop I was discourage by there advice.
While looking for information on net I came across this interview of a PHD Ismaili convert (http://www.shariati.com/messages/5333.html), I recommend you all to take some time out to read it they are 73 question and answer relating to our Traiqah and believes. Question Number 72 had encouraged me and gave reason to discuss my will with my friends again.
“72. Can I be accepted in the Ismaili faith right away if I wanted to convert?
No! ismailism is a faith of the intellect. It does not encourage blind belief. You would want to read and study the faith for some time. Once you are convinced, based on reason, that it is the right answer for you, then you can apply through the Ismaili Council in your area. You would then be tested on your knowledge of the faith. Always remember that Ismailism is a faith of conviction and not convenience.”
I gave my friends this interview and said conversion is possible. My friends argued saying me that even if I get converted, how I will be able to explain my parents and society, how I will forget my past. They asked me whether I am going to leave my family. I said no but I will not leave Imam, I said, I ask Allah to guide me and I meet Imam so he will guide me I gave my hand in his hand without questioning him so it’s his responsibility that I don’t lose any once hand.
My friend were not convince by me and opposed me decision; then I said if u stop me from admission I will not be your friend any more don’t look life with you’re Zahir vision look it from your Faith then with lot of argument they gave me address of JK and told me about Traiqah Board.
Since that day I am on, knocking the Doors of Ismailies, JK and Traiqah board. I was discouraged many time, my heart was broken many time, some pointed finger at me and some at my family, some times I was so badly heart that I asked why Imam why don’t you reply them for me. Imam replied me with a smile.
I told about Dedaar e Imam and I asked everyone to help me, tell me who is Imam, teach me your prayers, and explain me the concepts, not one replied except few.
I came across this Person who is X Ismaili, Who was an active member of Jamat, whose intention is to stop Ismailies from practicing Ismaili Faith, who criticises our concepts and to whom Imam thanked once by petting his shoulder, who misunderstood Imam and wrote negative about him. As he writes on page 26 (http://www.mostmerciful.com/understanding-ismailism.pdf)
“Shortly after, Karim Aga Khan came to Vancouver and I was invited to a private gathering in West Vancouver to have a Mulaqat (audience) with Karim Aga Khan and discuss the topics of the memorandum submitted earlier. The President who had been very co-operative and friendly introduced me to Aga Khan. I shook his hand and said: "Your Highness, I would like to have a Mulaqat with you". He petted my shoulder with his left hand and said: "Your family has done a great service in India" and extended his right hand to the person next in the line for introduction. Aiglemont (Aga Khan’s office in France), has a big file of my family and me”.
I thank him as when every door to know concepts of Ismailies was closed this person’s website explained Ismaili concepts negatively, I read them asked Imam is it true Imam replied no (although its easy to explain how Imam replied me but its difficult to accept as we live in Zahir world), every concept he explains negatively on his sites was explained positively by Imam to me.
For example
When I wanted to learn Dua and practice it. I read His article on Dua, Mr. X Ismaili explains every part by his mind and commented on there verses. Frankly speaking i felt Dua as poison. I edited six parts made a file of it and started learning it. When I read it for first time I couldn’t believe myself I felt like I am doing a crime against Allah. I started reading it, my eyes were wet, and my heart was not convinced but I did it for Allah, Prophets, Prophet Imams and Imam, and I believed they are with me. After I finished I felt complete, I felt satisfied, and I felt for the first time in my life that I am close to Allah. Then from that day I started reciting Dua Three times a day.
I understood today why Imam thanked him. If Mr. X Ismaili wouldn’t have written this articles I wouldn’t have learned and recite Dua daily. He might be negative, his intention are wrong but he helped me directly or indirectly to reach Imam.
No matter anyone tries hard to stop Ismailies, Ismailies will never stop as Imam Hold every Ismailies hand, its Imam’s responsibility to give hidayath (show his murids right path). Criticism is important; Allah has created everything in pairs. If his criticism is at a side then our belief is on other side. Disbeliveers (I am sorry imam I have no right to use this word) criticised First Prophet Adam to last Prophet Muhammad, from Imam Ali to Imam e Zaman, some don’t believe Allah and critics there creature. Mr. X if you’re reading me I thank you for helping me and advice you to take refuge in MHI. Its Mihraj tonight I will pray to Allah for your forgiveness and for your Hidayath.
May Allah Forgive us and bless everyone with Hidayath and Dedaar e Imam. Amine
SJD
Zubair