"Kalki Avatar" by Pundit Vedprakash

[Admin]

bro admin ,
what ur problem ??? y do u keep deleting my posts ?? are u scared of me or my questions ??

Questioning for the sake of learning is the most important thing a man can do in his life.

But you have an attitude problem and you do not want to explore what others have said in the subject before starting your preaching which also is not allowed. Your language contains vulgarity and you are refusing to read the rules that I have pointed you to.

In one of your post you have made a moquery of our Imam by suggesting that he can effort to gamble because he can replace his income with the tithe he is receiving but other can not do so because they do not receive tithe. One of the rule is that on this Forum we will not tolerate any insult to the Noorani family.

There are hundreds of people participating in this Forum, only 2 of them [you included] get their posts deleted consistently. No one is scared of you, first go back to school, learn how to write English properly, how to respect other people's point of view and how to read the rules of etiquette. This will help you not only on this Board but also any others where you may want to post.

By the way, I am deleting your account again. i don't think it will be long before I ban your IP permanently from this Board.

Admin

[786786]

We are not using the entire Quran in our prayer but only parts of it. Using a few verses from the Quran does not make it complete, it just makes it a valid scripture for our reflection and contemplation.

exactly!! how can u or when will u call a scripture valid ??? only when it is complete, ryte ??

can u plz tell me y do u think our holy scripture is not complete ??



Hazar Imam referencing the Quran just makes it a valid reference, it does not mean that it is complete.

tell me this if a teacher knows that this particular book called "math" has some errors ,will he then teach his students from that book ??



The Imam completes the Quran.

i totally agree with this


By itself it is incomplete, not NOT invalid or false.

so does that mean that quran is complete but if u dont take hazar imam as ur teacher then its incomplete ???


In his GJ Darbar Irshad to the Dar-es-Salaam MHI told the Jamat to study the Quran under the guidance of the Imam, not by ourselves. If we study it by ourselves, we can get misled by it.

true !!! but how can u blindly say that quran is incomplete, thats my point brother

[ShamsB]

We are not using the entire Quran in our prayer but only parts of it. Using a few verses from the Quran does not make it complete, it just makes it a valid scripture for our reflection and contemplation.

exactly!! how can u or when will u call a scripture valid ??? only when it is complete, ryte ??

can u plz tell me y do u think our holy scripture is not complete ??



Hazar Imam referencing the Quran just makes it a valid reference, it does not mean that it is complete.

tell me this if a teacher knows that this particular book called "math" has some errors ,will he then teach his students from that book ??



The Imam completes the Quran.

i totally agree with this


By itself it is incomplete, not NOT invalid or false.

so does that mean that quran is complete but if u dont take hazar imam as ur teacher then its incomplete ???


In his GJ Darbar Irshad to the Dar-es-Salaam MHI told the Jamat to study the Quran under the guidance of the Imam, not by ourselves. If we study it by ourselves, we can get misled by it.

true !!! but how can u blindly say that quran is incomplete, thats my point brother

This is has been pointed out to you before - I even sent you a PM referencing a farman of MSMS of 1899 Zanzibar - where this point has been clarified - now you're challenging the Imam it seems?

Shams

[kmaherali]

exactly!! how can u or when will u call a scripture valid ??? only when it is complete, ryte ??

can u plz tell me y do u think our holy scripture is not complete ??

Not necessarily, you can call a scripture valid although complete.

tell me this if a teacher knows that this particular book called "math" has some errors ,will he then teach his students from that book ??

The teacher may still use the parts of the book which do not have errors, but will inform the students to read the book under his/her guidance. That is what MHI has told us about the Quran...

so does that mean that quran is complete but if u dont take hazar imam as ur teacher then its incomplete ???

true !!! but how can u blindly say that quran is incomplete, thats my point brother

Anything that needs something else to complete it is incomplete by definition. If one reads the Quran without the Imam's guidance it can lead you astray and hence it is incomplete as a source of guidance.

[786786]

bro shams and meherali

thank you once again for sharing ur knowledge

this is what i have been looking for = ANSWERS !! but unfortunately bro admin is still stuck in BANANAS i guess



bro shams and meherali

what is ur take on imam hunaid ??

[kmaherali]

Not necessarily, you can call a scripture valid although complete.

Sorry I cannot edit mt post, I meant incomplete and NOT complete.

[agakhani]

What a interesting discussion going on in this topic? we all are out of track and discussing on other topic (whether Quran is complete or not? )but I love this kind discussion brothers.

[star_munir]

It will be interesting to know that according to religious literature of Bengali Sunni Muslims, Prophet Muhammad was incarnation of Vishnu. Also stories of Radha and Krishna are found in literature of Bengali Sunni Muslims. This has been mentioned in book "A scent of Sandalwood" by Aziz Esmail.

[agakhani]

It is very interesting indeed to know that it is also wrote in religious literature of Bengali Sunni Muslims that Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) was incarnation of Loard Vishnu, but As per my thinking Sunni Muslims does not beleive in incarnation( Avtars) any comments on this quote are welcome.

It will be interesting to know that according to religious literature of Bengali Sunni Muslims, Prophet Muhammad was incarnation of Vishnu. Also stories of Radha and Krishna are found in literature of Bengali Sunni Muslims. This has been mentioned in book "A scent of Sandalwood" by Aziz Esmail.

[star_munir]

It is very interesting indeed to know that it is also wrote in religious literature of Bengali Sunni Muslims that Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) was incarnation of Loard Vishnu, but As per my thinking Sunni Muslims does not beleive in incarnation( Avtars) any comments on this quote are welcome.

It will be interesting to know that according to religious literature of Bengali Sunni Muslims, Prophet Muhammad was incarnation of Vishnu. Also stories of Radha and Krishna are found in literature of Bengali Sunni Muslims. This has been mentioned in book "A scent of Sandalwood" by Aziz Esmail.

If we think in general, many Muslims will not believe in reincarnation. But when Islam was preached in India by different sufis and saints, many people retained some of the beliefs they already had. Then During, Bhakti movement also a large number of people accepted the ideas of both Islam and Hinduism. Later on, when revivalist movements were started by some orthodox people, many copies of such literatures were destroyed. For instance in Bengal the movement was started by Haji Shariatullah called as Faraizi movement, with purpose to make Muslims shed the un islamic trends and practices and avoid using name/vocbulary related to God as given in Hinduism.