Pir Shams - Voyage - Multan - Translation
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Pir Shams - Voyage - Multan - Translation
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Aapna trevisma Pir<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Hazrat Pir Shamsudin Shabzali nu tunk jivan vrutant<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Hazrat Pir Shamsudin nu jamna Shabjavar gam mu thuyo hato. Tevno pita nu nam Hazrat Pir Salhudin and matasri nu nam Fatima Binte Sayed Abdul Hadi hatu. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Aapna ogantis ma imam Hazrat Mowlana Imam Shah Kasam Shah eh Pir Shamsudin (a.s) ni Pir tarike nimrukh farmavi Iran ni bahar bija desho ma Ismaili mazap no falao karva davat-bot karva hukam farmavta Imam ni dast boshie kari. Du’a ashish saate ruvaana thuy Badakhshan avi pohchiya. Ane davat-bhot karvanu kariya shurue kari tyona lokho ne jamanana imam ni olkhan karavi. Hazrat Mowlana Imam Shah Kasam Shah vati bayat Kabul kari, Ismaili mazup mu dakhal kariya. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>Baabakshan tevo gizni chinab vige re kamo mo thi pasaar thi Hindu kush na maarge paamira ni khinuno vikhat pravaas kari Kashir aavi pohsha. Je je kaamo mo thi tiyo pasaar thuya tiyo daavat bhod no kariya chaalu rakhyu hatu. A musfari mu tevo eh anek taklifo ane musibato vveti bhukiya ane turshiya rahi Hindustan aaviya. Ane Hindione ubhdesh devano hoy Hindustan ni chakhash baasha o­nu sampurn ginan melvyu. <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>Ek vakhat anal gamo mu tiyu aavi pohchata tiyu na Hinduo dasherano tehvar hoi varbio gaata hata. Pir Shamsudin (a.s) pun the lokho ni saathe bhali jay. Phota ni racheli garbio gaava laagiya. Aa garbiyo ma Ismaili dharmani fil Sufi ane Imam e Zaman ni olakh chalo chal bhari hati. Das divas udhi uthavis garbiyo teo e gayi. Ane teni etli budhi unde usar thuy ke tiyo na pandito e lakhta gaya ane asankiyu Hinduoe potni janoi utarinaki. Pir Shamsudin (a.s) na pag paase dhuglo kari Islam dharma swikari jamanana imam Kasam Shah (a.s) ni bayat kari.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>Emna bai namni ek saadhivi stripant ej gaam ma rehti hati. Jene par Pir Shamsudin (a.s) prate bhagti bhaav peda thiyo. Ane potane gher Phir ne jamamva ni notriya. Pir Shamsudin (a.s) saheb teni uruj Kabul raakhi gare jamva phadariya. Utam pakhvano jare Pir Shamsudin (a.s) saheb paase mukhvama aaviya tyare tevo e te jamava na pari., ane Emna bhai ni kasoti karva khatar kuyu ke amone ah rasoi na khape. Tame kaacha gharam mu kaacha sutar na tota na vare kua mo thi paani ley aavi ten rusui pakhavo to ame jamsu. Amna bai imani hata ane Pir Shamsudin (a.s) hukam pramane kua mu thi paani bhari ley aavya rasoi phakhavi jamadiya. Pir Shamsudin (a.s) ah bhakti bhaav thi Ghana raaji thaya. Ane Amna bai ne ghani Dua o aapi. Amna bai ah rite kasoti mo thi par uthrya.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Hisrison (HA) 715 na Pir Shamsudin (a.s)<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>kasmir na raliyamana pradhesh mo bodh aapva phadariya. Tyare tyo ni changda naam ni jangli kom tyo ne kaapna sahit gheri lidha. Pun Pir Shamsudin (a.s) te lokho ni jana pun dharya vagar kudhavan tala ni hujur maa dua kuzhari ke tarataj te lokho mu parivartan they guyu. Ane bhada Pir SHamshudin sharni aaviya. Aah jagar kom ni sankhiya be lakh ni hati. Ane tyi Pir SHamshudin<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>na murid o buni gaya. Upront kasir vaasiyo pun ghani moti saankhiya ma murid bhaniya. Ke jemo kaashmir na raajava no pun sumavesh thay che .<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Aah rite Pir Shamshudin Tibet kaashi=mir gilan yarkand askard panjab multan vigere desho mo daavat bhod aapta raya. Ane Ismaili dharma no kharo mark lokho na bhata ruya. ANe khetlakh khas lokho ne khudavandi raaj yani Ilahi ved ni pun hidaath karta hata. Pir Shamsudin (a.s) na murido mo vishesh baagh Hindu o­no hato. Jemo khas karine chakh lokho ni survirta ane jaho jalali ghani vadhva pami. Dhranti ane tevo ne surdaroe kaashmir ane panja mo lag bag baso eshie vars udhi raaj satao bhoghvi hati.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Te vakhat na dilhi na baatsha o taruf thi nimaaye la prunt var subhavo ni jo hukhmi ane bhamber ni ne lidhe Pir Shamshudin ne thata Ismaili murid o ne varan var. Mushkiliyo vetvi parti hoi murid o ni jaan mal ni salamati ne khatar Pir Shamsudin (a.s) ne davat bhodvano tariko bhadal vo paryo hato. Ane chupi davat karvi part hati. Aah bodh na tarika oh ne Hindu o­ne Shamsimat kahe chhe. Ane aavi rite bhodayela lokho Hazrat Ali (a.s) ni majar he jaate khuda tarike mane che.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Pir Shamsudin (a.s) ah pardeso ma thi hidayath karta karta Karachi aavi pohchiya. Ane thiya thi tevo Multan phadariya. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Multan ma phadarie tevo e tyani juni mazid ma utaro lidho jya bandgi maate lokho ekta thuya hata. Pote pun e bandgi ma samil thaya ane pesh Imam ni bandgi ni suruvat kari. Bandgi ni advache Pir Shamsudin (a.s) niche besee gaya. Ane bandgi puri thaya puchi Pir ni aavi vulan joi lokho tevo pur tevo turuf gasi dhashi gaya. Ane am karva no karan puchiyu. Pir Shamsudin (a.s) lokho ne Isara thi thobi java kuyu. Ane farmavyu ke pes Imam jyare Allah ni yaad ma hao. Tyas udhi ame teni saathe bandgi maa samil raya. Pun jyare tenu dhiyan Allah ni yaad thi bhiji jugya e bhutuk va laagyu tyare ame bandgi ni advache niche besi gaya. Ah khula sathi bhuda ajadb thuy gaya. ANe araj kari ke ah pesh Imam tarike ubha ruy umone bandgi karavo. Pire tevo ni araj Kabul rakhi bandgi ni suruvat thutha bhud na dil ma jun janati pedha thuy. Ane jyare bandgi karna ra sisda ma gya tyare masid na kangra pun jukhine sisda karva laagiya. A joi lokho gabrai ne bandgi ni advache masid ma thi bahar chaliya gaya. Pir Shamsudin (a.s) ne bandgi puri kari ne bahar aaviya. Tyare lokho ne puchyu ke a bhina su che. Tyare Pir Shamsudin (a.s) ne niche na ginan na part thi utar aapiyu. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Man mera musla Allah mera kaji kaya hamari masita undar bhet me namaz guzhar u murukh kya jaane taath hamari <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>Upla vachan o­ne sambli Pir Shamsudin (a.s) pratek darek ne man pehda thuyu.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>Pir Shamsudin (a.s) (rahe) ni khukya thi sambli Multan na dhur ves bahudin jukar I aaye. Phote ne kirti mate bhik lagva mandi. Tethi temne pota na kaas murid Khan Muhammad Sayad Hakim sahid ne huku,m kariyo ke. Pir Shamsudin (a.s) multan Shaher ma na aavi sake tetla mate dariya mati bhudi kiski odhiyo ne saher ma khech layaviya. Ane e pramane karva ma aaviya. Pir Shamsudin (a.s) (rahe) kinara per aavta ek pun khisti tya na jotha ek khagal ni khisti bhanavi tema besi gaya ane pota na sathi dharo ne phota ni aangli pukarvanu kuyu. Kisti chaalvane saathe dholva laagi. Te joi farmaviyu koi ni saathe duniya no maal che tya sa jada Muhammad e safar ma kaam laage tetla maate teni maata e aape lu jave raat hutu te ruju kariyu. Jene Pire dhuriyama nunkhavi didhu. Ane khisti sararati aagal chaalva laagi. Bahu udin jakaria pota na mahel na jurukhama betho hato. Ane teni nazar dariya ni advache chali avti ah kasti upar pari. Ane tene kasti ne thya ti adkhaviteva Dua mangi. Ane kaski atghi gayi ah bina maate tapas maate chaare turuf Pir Shamsudin (a.s) e nazar dhoravi ande bahadurdin jakariya e jarukha ma bethelo juyo. Turutuj teyo eno bhed pami gaya. Ane bahdur din taraf nazar feki ane a devi nazar parta bahadur din na naatha ma be singra futhi neklya. Ane tenu maathu jurukha ma fasay gayu. Kisti purpar chalva laagya. Bahavudin jamatkharik bhanvthi ghubranu ane photana putro sadar ane sekh din ne Pir Shamsudin (a.s) ni maafi maangva dhoraaviya. Ah behu jan tya poche te pehla Pir Shamsudin (a.s) juni masjid ma jay pochya. Jya beh ujan aavi Pir Shamsudin (a.s) na bhugi puri maafi ni aajna kari. Bune ni kaaklu araj Kabul raakhi. Pir Shamsudin (a.s) teo na pita na hukh ma dua ghuzar tha bahadu din na singhra udhushiya thuy gaya. Puruntu singhda ni nishani tena vaso ma rahi java pami che. Je jurukho ma bahadu din jakariya bhetho hato, te bhari haju multan ma hasthi dharave che. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>Pir Shamsudin (a.s) no vasvaat multan me hato te dharmiyan tya na raja no ek na ek putr maran pamiyo raja na sokh no paar na rahyo. Tene bhuda fakiro Sufio ane aalimo ne bholaviya ane khuyu ke tamaro evo daavo che ke tame khudavand ni nazdik so. Ane etla khatr mu tamne amulya bhakshisho ane navazish aap vu shu to aaje tena bhudla turike maara putr ni sajivand karo, tame jo khuda purte saacha huso to aa kaam tame kari sakhso. Ane aam tame nispar jhaso to tamo bhada ne dhani ma pili naakhis.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>Aah shamble tevo na gabrat no par na rahiyo. Ane Pir Shamsudin (a.s) paase aavi mot na mukhma thi ugaar va maate ah zi zi kari. Pir Shamsudin (a.s) ne daya aavi an te o ni maangni Kabul raakhi. Maran pamela raj kuvar paase aavi pochiya sab upar nazar nakhi farmaviyu “kum be iznilla” etle ke, “kudha na hukam thi uth” pun teni usar na thuy tyare Pire farithi farmaviyu, “Kum be izni etle maara hukam thi uth” ane tarataj raj kuvar sajavant thuyo. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>Aah jamatkar thi raja ghuno kush thuyo pun ali mone nichu jovanu thuyu hova thi Pir Shams se khudah na hukam na badhle pota na hukam thi aah kam kariyu Aji tevo guneghar che evo fatvo aapiyo ane eh gunani saja guneghar ni jiv ta chamdi uthari naakhvani dharma na kaanoon ma che. Tem jaanvu ah jahe raat thi lokho Pir ni Bhirut thuy gaya. Pun Pir Shamsudin (a.s) ek devi ane chamatkari purus huva thi turutaj pota na sarire ek kali kamli odhi lidhi and pota na haath the sarir ni chambni uthari naakhi. Ali mu turuf feki. Aah joi budha tajook thuy gaya. Ane kumpi uthiya. A ghat na pachi pun ghuneghar gunayla saathe subhan ke vhevar na raakh vanu. Dharan ma janavelu huva na apayela fatva thi praj ae Pir saathe sabhand raakhyo nahi. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Ghuno sumay viti gaya bhad Pir Shamsudin (a.s) ne bhukh laagta lokho pase khorakh mate mangni kari. Koi e taraf dhiyan na apyu. Nahi pun ek kasai ne lagni thay aava thi maas no tukro Pir ne aapiyo. Pun tene pukar vo si rite. Tene chinta thuy pari. Ane e maas na tukra saathe Pir Shamsudin (a.s) multan shaher ni bahar nikli gaya. Ane phota ne sakhti vare suraj ne nije uthariyo. Suraj ni asal gharmi thi multan na shaher lokho taraf va laagiya tyare khetlak lokho dhori jay Pir ne phagi pari mafi maagva laagiya. Ah thi Pir ne daya aava thi temaj maas no tukro paaki gayo hova thi suraj ni pota ni asal jagaye chaliya jaava nu kheta suraj chaaliyo gayo. Je jagiya e suraj ne utar va ma aaviyo hato te jagiyani suriya khund kheva ma aave she and human pun te majbut she and dur varse kya moto meloj bhariya se. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Kasmir ma jyaare Pir Shamsudin (a.s) aaviya tyaare tya suraj ni puja karva valo ne ek motso work hato. Suruj na ajvala sudhi te lokho na prathna vagere kaamo karva ma musghul rehta pun suraj usthu thaya bad tevo paap karvo karva thi darta na hota karan ke te lokho ni evi maanyatah hati ke ant khar ma suruj udhelo hoi paap karmojoi sukhto nathi tethi antkhar ma karela paapo ghanatha ta nahi. Avi ugnanta dhuravta lokho ne bhod kari Ismaili dharma no saacho rasto Pire dekhariyo hato. Ane tevo ne samsi tarike olkhvaya hata.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Panjab ma hal me je Shamshi Ismailio kevay che te Pir Shamsudin (a.s) ne bhodela che ane tevo ni sunkiya mota pruman ma che ane tevo zhahir ma Ismaili dharma paaleche. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Pir Shamsudin (a.s) saheb Ismaili dharma no felavo karva mate anek jaat ni musibato uthave Hindustan ma jya jya ubdesh deva gaya tya tya tevo e surili jaban ma garbio ne ginan rachi hakikati din ni bhatvi asankiyu murido bhanaviya che.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Pir Shamsudin (a.s) na lagan tevo na mama Sayed Jalaudin ni putrid Bibi Hafiza jamal saathe thuya hata. Jemni khuke be putro janmya hata Jemna namo (1) Hazrat Nasirudin ane (2) Sayyed Ahmad Jinda Pir hata. Pir Shamsudin (a.s) a phani duniya chori gaya bhad jamanana Imam e temna furjun Nasirudin pira tun sop hi hati. Je aapna chovisma Pir che ane temnu naam Pir na puthiyo ma Pir Nasirudin tarike vunvelu se. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Hazrat Mowlana Imam Shah Kasam Shah ni seva ma tabiz gaam ma gana lambe vakhat sudhi Pir Shamsudin (a.s) raya hova thi tevo Pir Shamsudin (a.s) Tabezi tarike olkhiy che. Uprat tevo Shabjavar gaam ma jan mel hoi Pir Shamsudin (a.s) Shabzali kevai che Sham ane mishar nip raja tevo ne Shams Madribi and Kasfir na vasvvat karvya baad tevo Shamsudin Iraqi na naame pun olkhay che ane <BR><o:p><BR>Can somebody please translate this to english.</o:p></SPAN></P>
From the book: Songs of Wisdom and Circles of Dance Hymns of the Satpanthi Ismaili Muslim Saint, Pir Shams by Tazim R. Kassam
Appendix B: Translation of "A Short Life-History of
Our Twenty-Third Pir—Hadrat Pir Shams al-Din
Sabzawari"1 in the Anthology
1. This is a translation of the introduction to Pir Shams that is given in the Gujarati edition of the Anthology. The title of the Gujarati version is apana trevisama pir hazarat pir shamsudin sabzawdrinun funk jivan vrattdht. The author of this piece is not stated in the Sangraha. The translation given here is mine (author of the book)
Hadrat Pir Shams al-Din was born in the town of Sabzawar. His father's name was Hadrat Pir Salah al-Din, and his mother's name was Fatimah bin Sayyid Abd al-Hadl.
Our twenty-ninth Imam, Hadrat Mawlana Imam Shah Qasim Shah, appointed Pir Shams al-Din as pir and ordered him to preach wisdom and spread the Isma'ill faith in lands outside Iran. Kissing the hand of the Imam, he left with his blessings and arrived at Badakhshan where he began his duty to preach. Revealing the Imam of the time (zamana na imam) to the people, he accepted their allegiance to Hadrat Mawlana Imam Shah Qasim Shah on his behalf and initiated them into the religion of Isma'llism.
From Badakhshan he passed through Ghazni, Cinab, and other towns, and, trekking through the Hindukush and Pamir mountain ranges, he reached Kashmir. At every town that he passed through, he kept up his duty of preaching. During his journey, he endured many troubles and afflictions. Suffering hunger and thirst, he arrived in India (Hindustan) where, in order to teach and preach, he had to learn and master many different Indian dialects.
One day, he came to a town called Anal where he found Hindus singing garbis on the occasion of Dasera. Pir Shams al-Din mixed in with them and began to sing his own garbis. These garbis were filled to the brim with the philosophy of Isma'Ilism and the revelation of the Imam of the time. Over ten days, he sang twenty-eight garbis. Their effect was so profound that the local pandits hurriedly wrote them down, and countless Hindus discarded their sacred threads (janoi) which piled up into a huge mound at the feet of Pir Shams al-Din. [Then], accepting the faith of Islam, they all gave allegiance to the Imam of the time, Imam Qasim Shah.
In the same village, there lived a pious woman by the name of Emnabai. She, too, was inspired with feelings of devotion for the pir and invited him to dine at her home. The master, Pir Shams al-Din, accepted her request and entered her house to eat. When the meal was laid before Pir Shams al-Din, however, he refused to eat the food. To test Emnabai, he said, "We do not want this cooking! We shall eat only if you cook a meal with water that has been fetched in an unbaked pot drawn up from the water-well with a rope made of raw cotton." Emnabai was faithful (imam), and she followed Pir Shams al-Din's instructions. She fetched water from the well and then cooked and fed him. Pir Shams al-Din was greatly pleased with this [proof of] devotion and gave Emnabai many blessings. Thus, Emnabai passed the test.
In the year 715 A.H., Pir Shams al-Din went to the delightful land of Kashmir to preach when a band of ruffians belonging to a tribe called Carigad captured him with ropes (made of cactus). Pir Shams al-Din, however, showed no fear toward these people and prayed before the presence of God Almighty. Immediately, a change came over them, and they all sought Pir Shams al-Din's protection. The Carigad tribe numbered some two lakh strong, and they all became followers of Pir Shams al-Din. Thereafter, other citizens of Kashmir also became followers in great numbers, among whom could also be found [some of] its kings.
In this way, Pir Shams al-Din spread the teachings of the dawah in Tibet, Kashmir, Gilan, Yarkand, Askard, Punjab, Multan, and other countries and showed the people the true path of the Isma'llI faith; to a few special individuals, he also gave guidance about the "divine secret" or the "divine essence."
However, the major portion of Pir Shams al-Din's followers were the Hindus, especially the people known as Cakkas who were famous for their heroism and splendor, and whose chiefs had reigned over Kashmir and the Punjab for about 280 years.
In those times, as a result of the king's oppressive orders to his provincial governors, Pir Shams al-Din and his Isma'Ili followers suffered endless hardships. To safeguard their lives and possessions, Pir Shams al-Din had to change his method of spreading the dawah and, instead, preached his message in disguise. The Hindus called this path the Shamsi sect (samsi mat), and its followers believed Hadrat 'Ali to be the epiphany (mazhar) of God Almighty.
Giving [religious] guidance to this region in such manner, Pir Shams al-DIn eventually reached Karachi, and from there he proceeded to Multan.
In Multan, he took up residence in an ancient mosque where a group of people had gathered to pray. He joined the group for prayer, and the imam leading the prayer began. In the middle of the prayer, Pir Shams al-Din suddenly sat down. Once the prayer was over, people rushed to the Pir demanding an explanation for his irreverent attitude. Pir Shams al-DIn gestured to them to sit down and said that, "As long as the imam who led the prayer was remembering Allah, I performed the prayer with him, but I sat down in the middle of the prayer when his attention strayed from Allah's recollection and idly wandered to other places." Everyone was astonished by this answer. They urged him, "Please stand forward as the imam who leads the prayer and make us pray." The Pir consented to their request. As the prayer commenced, lights came alive in all their hearts, and, when those in prayer bowed, the minarets of the mosque began to bow, too. Witnessing this, the people became frightened and midway through the prayer fled outside the mosque. When Pir Shams al-DIn completed his prayer and came out, the people asked, "What happened?" In reply, Pir Shams al-Din recited the following verse of a ginan:
My mind is the prayer mat and the judge;
and my body is my mosque;
Sitting in it, I perform the namaz;
indeed, [is there one] who knows my submission?
After hearing the above words, their hearts became filled with respect for Pir Shams al-Din. But when the Sufi of Multan, Baha' al-Din Zakariyya, heard about this incident, he began to fear for his fame. Thus, he ordered his staunch disciple Khan Muhammad Seyyid Hakim Shahid to make sure that Pir Shams al-Din would not be able to enter Multan by hauling in all the rafts and boats onto the city's shore. And thus it was done. When Pir Shams al-DIn arrived at the river bank and did not see any boats, he constructed one from a piece of paper. Sitting in it, he asked his companions to hold on to his fingers, and the boat began to move; but it unsteadily lurched to and fro. Seeing this, he asked: "Is there anyone who carries material possessions?" Shahzadah Muhammad presented him his mother's jewelry which she had given him for his journey. The Pir threw it into the water, and the boat began to glide forward smoothly. Baha' al-Din Zakariyya was sitting in the balcony of his palace when his eyes fell upon a boat that was halfway across the river. He promptly swore for it to stop dead in its tracks, and the boat abruptly came to a halt. Pir Shams al-Din peered in all four directions to search for the cause of this event, and then he saw Baha' al-DIn Zakariyya sitting in his balcony. Immediately, he understood the gist of the situation and cast a glance towards Baha' al-Din. When this divine glance fell upon him, two horns burst forth from Baha' al-Din Zakariyya's temple, and his head got stuck in the balcony. The boat began to move forward at full speed. Baha' al-Din was petrified by this miraculous feat and dispatched his sons Sadr al-Din and Shaykh al-Din to Pir Shams al-Din to ask for forgiveness. Pir Shams al-Din arrived at the ancient mosque before the two got there. They prostrated at his feet and pleaded for mercy. Accepting their imploring pleas, Pir Shams al-Din recited a prayer on behalf of their father, and the horns on Baha' al-Din Zakariyya's head disappeared. However, the marks left by the horns have remained imprinted upon the foreheads of his progeny. The balcony where Baha' al-Din sat still exists in Multan.
During the time that Pir Shams al-Din resided in Multan, it so happened that, one by one, the sons of its ruler began to die. The king could not control his grief. He summoned all the saints, sufis, and learned men, and said: "It is your calling that you are close to God Almighty, and thus have I showered you with many priceless favors and gifts. So today, in return I wish you to revive my son. If you are truly near God, you will be able to accomplish this task. If you fail in it, surely I will crush you up in the oil-mill."
Hearing this, they could not contain their fears, and they rushed to Pir Shams al-DIn, pleading him to rescue them from the jaw of death. Pir Shams al-DIn felt pity on them and, consenting to their request, arrived by the side of the dead prince. Gazing at the corpse, he said: "hum be-idhan allah!" which means "By the command of Allah, Rise!" But this had no effect, so the Pir said again, "hum be-idhani!" which means "Rise by my command!" Immediately the prince came alive.
The king was supremely delighted by this miracle. However, since the learned men had been forced to look down in shame, they issued an order (fatwa) charging that Pir Shams al-Din was sinful for having accomplished this feat by his own command and not by the will of God. They decreed that by religious law, the punishment for this sin was to be as follows: to strip off the Pir's skin while he was still alive. This injunction turned the people against the Pir, but, as Pir Shams al-Din was a divine personage capable of miracles, he promptly covered his body with a black blanket and, by his own hand, peeled the skin off his body and threw it before the learned men. Seeing this, everyone was stunned and began to tremble. Yet, even after this scene, since he had been branded a sinner by the fatwa, and due to the religious command against having any relations or contact with him, people did not associate with the Pir.
After a great deal of time had elapsed, Pir Shams al-Din, suffering from hunger, begged the people for some food. However, nobody paid any attention to him. A butcher took heart and gave him a piece of meat. Pir Shams al-Din began to ponder on how he would cook the meat. Taking it along with him, he went outside the city of Multan and, by his own powers, brought the sun down to cook it. The people of Multan began to sizzle under the sun's unbearable heat, and many of them scurried to the Pir, fell at his feet, and begged for forgiveness. The Pir was merciful, and, since by this time the piece of meat had been cooked, he ordered the sun to go back to its original place, which it did. The site at which the sun descended was henceforth called Suryakand. It exists even now, and each year a huge festival is celebrated there.
Pir Shams al-Din then arrived in Kashmir where there was a large sect that worshipped the sun. As long as the sun shone, they were absorbed in prayer and other religious ceremonies, but, once the sun had set, they were not afraid of committing sinful deeds. For, these people believed that, when it was dark, the sun was asleep and could not see their sins, and, therefore, sins committed in darkness were not to be counted as sins. The Pir enlightened these deluded people and showed them the true path of the Isma'llI faith. They came to be known as the Shamsis.
At present, the Shamsis in the Punjab, who are very great in number, [are descendants of those who] were originally enlightened by Pir Shams al-Din, and [now] they openly practice the Isma'llI faith. In order to spread the Isma'ili faith, the master, Pir Shams al-Din, endured all kinds of obstacles. In India, wherever he went to give wisdom, he composed ginans and garbis in beautiful language to disclose the true religion, thus winning many followers.
Pir Shams al-Din was married to Bibi Hafizah Jamal, the daughter of his uncle, Sayyid Jalal al-Dm. She bore him two sons: Hadrat Naslr al-Din and Hadrat Sayyid Ahmad Zindapir. When Pir Shams al-Din departed this temporal world, the Imam of the time entrusted the title and position of pir upon his son, Nasir al-Din, who is our twenty-fourth pir. His name is cited in the genealogy of the pirs as Pir Nasir al-Din.
During his service of Hadrat Mawlana Imam Shah Qasim Shah, Pir Shams al-Din lived for a long time in the town called Tabriz. This is why he is often known as Pir Shams al-Din Tabriz!. Moreover, as he was born in the town Sabzawar, he is also known as Pir Shams al-Din Sabzawarl. The people of Egypt and Syria know him as Shams Maghribi. After he had lived in Kashmir, he was also called Shams al-Din Iraqi. In the dua, he is addressed as Pir Shams Chot.
Here, it is extremely important to clarify that the great Sufi saint Hadrat Shams Tabriz who was Jalal al-Din Ruml's spiritual guide, and who lived during the time of our twenty-eighth Imam, Hadrat Mawlana Imam Shah Shams al-Din Muhammad, was not the same person who was our twenty-third pir, Pir Shams al-Din Sabzawarl, who was also called Pir Shams Tabrizi. These were two different individuals. Pir Shams al-Din died in Multan in the year 757 A.H.
Even today, we still sing the ginans and garbis composed by Pir Shams al-Din with great devotional fervor. In addition to their insightful verses and their lofty philosophy of the Isma'llI faith, these ginans and garbis are saturated with the complete and clear-cut teachings on the obedience to and recognition of the Imam of the time. After reading this short life-history of Pir Shams al-Din and studying his ginans, it is essential that the teachings expressed in them be put into practice in life so that our faith remains strong and firm. [We pray] that we should be able to gain a true understanding of the Isma'llI faith; that we should have no hesitation in obeying the orders of the Imam of the time; and that the living Imam, Mawlana Sultan Muhammad Shah Datar, should perpetually keep alive in each one of us feelings of loyalty. May Mawla bless every Isma'lli with true guidance. Ameen. Salawat.
Appendix B: Translation of "A Short Life-History of
Our Twenty-Third Pir—Hadrat Pir Shams al-Din
Sabzawari"1 in the Anthology
1. This is a translation of the introduction to Pir Shams that is given in the Gujarati edition of the Anthology. The title of the Gujarati version is apana trevisama pir hazarat pir shamsudin sabzawdrinun funk jivan vrattdht. The author of this piece is not stated in the Sangraha. The translation given here is mine (author of the book)
Hadrat Pir Shams al-Din was born in the town of Sabzawar. His father's name was Hadrat Pir Salah al-Din, and his mother's name was Fatimah bin Sayyid Abd al-Hadl.
Our twenty-ninth Imam, Hadrat Mawlana Imam Shah Qasim Shah, appointed Pir Shams al-Din as pir and ordered him to preach wisdom and spread the Isma'ill faith in lands outside Iran. Kissing the hand of the Imam, he left with his blessings and arrived at Badakhshan where he began his duty to preach. Revealing the Imam of the time (zamana na imam) to the people, he accepted their allegiance to Hadrat Mawlana Imam Shah Qasim Shah on his behalf and initiated them into the religion of Isma'llism.
From Badakhshan he passed through Ghazni, Cinab, and other towns, and, trekking through the Hindukush and Pamir mountain ranges, he reached Kashmir. At every town that he passed through, he kept up his duty of preaching. During his journey, he endured many troubles and afflictions. Suffering hunger and thirst, he arrived in India (Hindustan) where, in order to teach and preach, he had to learn and master many different Indian dialects.
One day, he came to a town called Anal where he found Hindus singing garbis on the occasion of Dasera. Pir Shams al-Din mixed in with them and began to sing his own garbis. These garbis were filled to the brim with the philosophy of Isma'Ilism and the revelation of the Imam of the time. Over ten days, he sang twenty-eight garbis. Their effect was so profound that the local pandits hurriedly wrote them down, and countless Hindus discarded their sacred threads (janoi) which piled up into a huge mound at the feet of Pir Shams al-Din. [Then], accepting the faith of Islam, they all gave allegiance to the Imam of the time, Imam Qasim Shah.
In the same village, there lived a pious woman by the name of Emnabai. She, too, was inspired with feelings of devotion for the pir and invited him to dine at her home. The master, Pir Shams al-Din, accepted her request and entered her house to eat. When the meal was laid before Pir Shams al-Din, however, he refused to eat the food. To test Emnabai, he said, "We do not want this cooking! We shall eat only if you cook a meal with water that has been fetched in an unbaked pot drawn up from the water-well with a rope made of raw cotton." Emnabai was faithful (imam), and she followed Pir Shams al-Din's instructions. She fetched water from the well and then cooked and fed him. Pir Shams al-Din was greatly pleased with this [proof of] devotion and gave Emnabai many blessings. Thus, Emnabai passed the test.
In the year 715 A.H., Pir Shams al-Din went to the delightful land of Kashmir to preach when a band of ruffians belonging to a tribe called Carigad captured him with ropes (made of cactus). Pir Shams al-Din, however, showed no fear toward these people and prayed before the presence of God Almighty. Immediately, a change came over them, and they all sought Pir Shams al-Din's protection. The Carigad tribe numbered some two lakh strong, and they all became followers of Pir Shams al-Din. Thereafter, other citizens of Kashmir also became followers in great numbers, among whom could also be found [some of] its kings.
In this way, Pir Shams al-Din spread the teachings of the dawah in Tibet, Kashmir, Gilan, Yarkand, Askard, Punjab, Multan, and other countries and showed the people the true path of the Isma'llI faith; to a few special individuals, he also gave guidance about the "divine secret" or the "divine essence."
However, the major portion of Pir Shams al-Din's followers were the Hindus, especially the people known as Cakkas who were famous for their heroism and splendor, and whose chiefs had reigned over Kashmir and the Punjab for about 280 years.
In those times, as a result of the king's oppressive orders to his provincial governors, Pir Shams al-Din and his Isma'Ili followers suffered endless hardships. To safeguard their lives and possessions, Pir Shams al-Din had to change his method of spreading the dawah and, instead, preached his message in disguise. The Hindus called this path the Shamsi sect (samsi mat), and its followers believed Hadrat 'Ali to be the epiphany (mazhar) of God Almighty.
Giving [religious] guidance to this region in such manner, Pir Shams al-DIn eventually reached Karachi, and from there he proceeded to Multan.
In Multan, he took up residence in an ancient mosque where a group of people had gathered to pray. He joined the group for prayer, and the imam leading the prayer began. In the middle of the prayer, Pir Shams al-Din suddenly sat down. Once the prayer was over, people rushed to the Pir demanding an explanation for his irreverent attitude. Pir Shams al-DIn gestured to them to sit down and said that, "As long as the imam who led the prayer was remembering Allah, I performed the prayer with him, but I sat down in the middle of the prayer when his attention strayed from Allah's recollection and idly wandered to other places." Everyone was astonished by this answer. They urged him, "Please stand forward as the imam who leads the prayer and make us pray." The Pir consented to their request. As the prayer commenced, lights came alive in all their hearts, and, when those in prayer bowed, the minarets of the mosque began to bow, too. Witnessing this, the people became frightened and midway through the prayer fled outside the mosque. When Pir Shams al-DIn completed his prayer and came out, the people asked, "What happened?" In reply, Pir Shams al-Din recited the following verse of a ginan:
My mind is the prayer mat and the judge;
and my body is my mosque;
Sitting in it, I perform the namaz;
indeed, [is there one] who knows my submission?
After hearing the above words, their hearts became filled with respect for Pir Shams al-Din. But when the Sufi of Multan, Baha' al-Din Zakariyya, heard about this incident, he began to fear for his fame. Thus, he ordered his staunch disciple Khan Muhammad Seyyid Hakim Shahid to make sure that Pir Shams al-Din would not be able to enter Multan by hauling in all the rafts and boats onto the city's shore. And thus it was done. When Pir Shams al-DIn arrived at the river bank and did not see any boats, he constructed one from a piece of paper. Sitting in it, he asked his companions to hold on to his fingers, and the boat began to move; but it unsteadily lurched to and fro. Seeing this, he asked: "Is there anyone who carries material possessions?" Shahzadah Muhammad presented him his mother's jewelry which she had given him for his journey. The Pir threw it into the water, and the boat began to glide forward smoothly. Baha' al-Din Zakariyya was sitting in the balcony of his palace when his eyes fell upon a boat that was halfway across the river. He promptly swore for it to stop dead in its tracks, and the boat abruptly came to a halt. Pir Shams al-Din peered in all four directions to search for the cause of this event, and then he saw Baha' al-DIn Zakariyya sitting in his balcony. Immediately, he understood the gist of the situation and cast a glance towards Baha' al-Din. When this divine glance fell upon him, two horns burst forth from Baha' al-Din Zakariyya's temple, and his head got stuck in the balcony. The boat began to move forward at full speed. Baha' al-Din was petrified by this miraculous feat and dispatched his sons Sadr al-Din and Shaykh al-Din to Pir Shams al-Din to ask for forgiveness. Pir Shams al-Din arrived at the ancient mosque before the two got there. They prostrated at his feet and pleaded for mercy. Accepting their imploring pleas, Pir Shams al-Din recited a prayer on behalf of their father, and the horns on Baha' al-Din Zakariyya's head disappeared. However, the marks left by the horns have remained imprinted upon the foreheads of his progeny. The balcony where Baha' al-Din sat still exists in Multan.
During the time that Pir Shams al-Din resided in Multan, it so happened that, one by one, the sons of its ruler began to die. The king could not control his grief. He summoned all the saints, sufis, and learned men, and said: "It is your calling that you are close to God Almighty, and thus have I showered you with many priceless favors and gifts. So today, in return I wish you to revive my son. If you are truly near God, you will be able to accomplish this task. If you fail in it, surely I will crush you up in the oil-mill."
Hearing this, they could not contain their fears, and they rushed to Pir Shams al-DIn, pleading him to rescue them from the jaw of death. Pir Shams al-DIn felt pity on them and, consenting to their request, arrived by the side of the dead prince. Gazing at the corpse, he said: "hum be-idhan allah!" which means "By the command of Allah, Rise!" But this had no effect, so the Pir said again, "hum be-idhani!" which means "Rise by my command!" Immediately the prince came alive.
The king was supremely delighted by this miracle. However, since the learned men had been forced to look down in shame, they issued an order (fatwa) charging that Pir Shams al-Din was sinful for having accomplished this feat by his own command and not by the will of God. They decreed that by religious law, the punishment for this sin was to be as follows: to strip off the Pir's skin while he was still alive. This injunction turned the people against the Pir, but, as Pir Shams al-Din was a divine personage capable of miracles, he promptly covered his body with a black blanket and, by his own hand, peeled the skin off his body and threw it before the learned men. Seeing this, everyone was stunned and began to tremble. Yet, even after this scene, since he had been branded a sinner by the fatwa, and due to the religious command against having any relations or contact with him, people did not associate with the Pir.
After a great deal of time had elapsed, Pir Shams al-Din, suffering from hunger, begged the people for some food. However, nobody paid any attention to him. A butcher took heart and gave him a piece of meat. Pir Shams al-Din began to ponder on how he would cook the meat. Taking it along with him, he went outside the city of Multan and, by his own powers, brought the sun down to cook it. The people of Multan began to sizzle under the sun's unbearable heat, and many of them scurried to the Pir, fell at his feet, and begged for forgiveness. The Pir was merciful, and, since by this time the piece of meat had been cooked, he ordered the sun to go back to its original place, which it did. The site at which the sun descended was henceforth called Suryakand. It exists even now, and each year a huge festival is celebrated there.
Pir Shams al-Din then arrived in Kashmir where there was a large sect that worshipped the sun. As long as the sun shone, they were absorbed in prayer and other religious ceremonies, but, once the sun had set, they were not afraid of committing sinful deeds. For, these people believed that, when it was dark, the sun was asleep and could not see their sins, and, therefore, sins committed in darkness were not to be counted as sins. The Pir enlightened these deluded people and showed them the true path of the Isma'llI faith. They came to be known as the Shamsis.
At present, the Shamsis in the Punjab, who are very great in number, [are descendants of those who] were originally enlightened by Pir Shams al-Din, and [now] they openly practice the Isma'llI faith. In order to spread the Isma'ili faith, the master, Pir Shams al-Din, endured all kinds of obstacles. In India, wherever he went to give wisdom, he composed ginans and garbis in beautiful language to disclose the true religion, thus winning many followers.
Pir Shams al-Din was married to Bibi Hafizah Jamal, the daughter of his uncle, Sayyid Jalal al-Dm. She bore him two sons: Hadrat Naslr al-Din and Hadrat Sayyid Ahmad Zindapir. When Pir Shams al-Din departed this temporal world, the Imam of the time entrusted the title and position of pir upon his son, Nasir al-Din, who is our twenty-fourth pir. His name is cited in the genealogy of the pirs as Pir Nasir al-Din.
During his service of Hadrat Mawlana Imam Shah Qasim Shah, Pir Shams al-Din lived for a long time in the town called Tabriz. This is why he is often known as Pir Shams al-Din Tabriz!. Moreover, as he was born in the town Sabzawar, he is also known as Pir Shams al-Din Sabzawarl. The people of Egypt and Syria know him as Shams Maghribi. After he had lived in Kashmir, he was also called Shams al-Din Iraqi. In the dua, he is addressed as Pir Shams Chot.
Here, it is extremely important to clarify that the great Sufi saint Hadrat Shams Tabriz who was Jalal al-Din Ruml's spiritual guide, and who lived during the time of our twenty-eighth Imam, Hadrat Mawlana Imam Shah Shams al-Din Muhammad, was not the same person who was our twenty-third pir, Pir Shams al-Din Sabzawarl, who was also called Pir Shams Tabrizi. These were two different individuals. Pir Shams al-Din died in Multan in the year 757 A.H.
Even today, we still sing the ginans and garbis composed by Pir Shams al-Din with great devotional fervor. In addition to their insightful verses and their lofty philosophy of the Isma'llI faith, these ginans and garbis are saturated with the complete and clear-cut teachings on the obedience to and recognition of the Imam of the time. After reading this short life-history of Pir Shams al-Din and studying his ginans, it is essential that the teachings expressed in them be put into practice in life so that our faith remains strong and firm. [We pray] that we should be able to gain a true understanding of the Isma'llI faith; that we should have no hesitation in obeying the orders of the Imam of the time; and that the living Imam, Mawlana Sultan Muhammad Shah Datar, should perpetually keep alive in each one of us feelings of loyalty. May Mawla bless every Isma'lli with true guidance. Ameen. Salawat.
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Thank You
Thank you so uch for taking the time to answer my (long) question. May Allah shower his blessings upon you a many folds.
After a great deal of time had elapsed, Pir Shams al-Din, suffering from hunger, begged the people for some food. However, nobody paid any attention to him. A butcher took heart and gave him a piece of meat. Pir Shams al-Din began to ponder on how he would cook the meat. Taking it along with him, he went outside the city of Multan and, by his own powers, brought the sun down to cook it. The people of Multan began to sizzle under the sun's unbearable heat, and many of them scurried to the Pir, fell at his feet, and begged for forgiveness. The Pir was merciful, and, since by this time the piece of meat had been cooked, he ordered the sun to go back to its original place, which it did. The site at which the sun descended was henceforth called Suryakand. It exists even now, and each year a huge festival is celebrated there.
i dunno about others but i do believe in the above story and it is said in holy quran :
12:4 Behold! Joseph said to his father: "O my father! I did see[in dream] eleven stars and the SUN AND the moon: I saw them prostrate themselves to me!"
and the verse continues ...
12:5 [Jacob] replied: "O my dear son! [8] Do not relate thy dream to thy brothers lest [out of envy] they devise an evil scheme against thee; verily, Satan is man's open foe!
12:6 For, [as thou hast been shown in thy dream,] even thus will thy Sustainer elect thee, and will impart unto thee some understanding of the inner meaning of happenings, and will bestow the full measure of His blessings upon thee and upon the House of Jacob -even as, aforetime, He bestowed it in full measure upon thy forefathers Abraham and Isaac. Verily, thy Sustainer is all-knowing, wise!"
12:7 Indeed, in [the story of] Joseph and his brothers there are messages for all who search [after truth].
Everything in religion is not explainable by science. There is inherent mystery. Not all miracles performed in esoteric traditions can be explained in scientific terms. MSMS in his Memoirs (pg 312) states:FreeLancer wrote: I am posting this paragraph from the thread you mentioned. It is from Tazim Kassim's book.
"After a great deal of time had elapsed, Pir Shams al-Din, suffering from hunger, begged the people for some food. However, nobody paid any attention to him. A butcher took heart and gave him a piece of meat. Pir Shams al-Din began to ponder on how he would cook the meat. Taking it along with him, he went outside the city of Multan and, by his own powers, brought the sun down to cook it. The people of Multan began to sizzle under the sun's unbearable heat, and many of them scurried to the Pir, fell at his feet, and begged for forgiveness. The Pir was merciful, and, since by this time the piece of meat had been cooked, he ordered the sun to go back to its original place, which it did. The site at which the sun descended was henceforth called Suryakand. It exists even now, and each year a huge festival is celebrated there".
Karim you are a highly educated person. Trained at IIS and an engineer knowing science well. My take;
If sun incline down ward one degree what will happen on earth or if sun move one degree upward what will happen to earth?
"Mr, Chaplin is interested in certain psychical and non-physical phenomena, such as telepathy and its various derivatives. He quoted to me Einstein's demand that ten scientists should witness at the same time, and under prescisely similar conditions, every case of this kind submitted, before he would consider these manifestations proven. He and I agreed that the imposition of this kind of test would make all psychical research and experiment impossible, for these phenomena-and the laws under which they occur-are simply not at the beck and call of human beings".
For more on this subject you may want to go to:
Anecdotes --> Role of Miracles in Esoteric Traditions.
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You are not specific, how will you explain and answer youth to satisfy them. Just some confused statements won't solve the problem. What is scientific justification for that event.kmaherali wrote:Everything in religion is not explainable by science. There is inherent mystery. Not all miracles performed in esoteric traditions can be explained in scientific terms. MSMS in his Memoirs (pg 312) states:FreeLancer wrote: I am posting this paragraph from the thread you mentioned. It is from Tazim Kassim's book.
"After a great deal of time had elapsed, Pir Shams al-Din, suffering from hunger, begged the people for some food. However, nobody paid any attention to him. A butcher took heart and gave him a piece of meat. Pir Shams al-Din began to ponder on how he would cook the meat. Taking it along with him, he went outside the city of Multan and, by his own powers, brought the sun down to cook it. The people of Multan began to sizzle under the sun's unbearable heat, and many of them scurried to the Pir, fell at his feet, and begged for forgiveness. The Pir was merciful, and, since by this time the piece of meat had been cooked, he ordered the sun to go back to its original place, which it did. The site at which the sun descended was henceforth called Suryakand. It exists even now, and each year a huge festival is celebrated there".
Karim you are a highly educated person. Trained at IIS and an engineer knowing science well. My take;
If sun incline down ward one degree what will happen on earth or if sun move one degree upward what will happen to earth?
"Mr, Chaplin is interested in certain psychical and non-physical phenomena, such as telepathy and its various derivatives. He quoted to me Einstein's demand that ten scientists should witness at the same time, and under prescisely similar conditions, every case of this kind submitted, before he would consider these manifestations proven. He and I agreed that the imposition of this kind of test would make all psychical research and experiment impossible, for these phenomena-and the laws under which they occur-are simply not at the beck and call of human beings".
For more on this subject you may want to go to:
Anecdotes --> Role of Miracles in Esoteric Traditions.
As I said not all phenomena can be explained through the existing scientific laws. Science itself is evolving. The Newtonion laws don't apply to the quantum world of subatomic particles. The powers available to the Pir or any God-realized person are not comprehensible to the general public.FreeLancer wrote: You are not specific, how will you explain and answer youth to satisfy them. Just some confused statements won't solve the problem. What is scientific justification for that event.
You haven't gone to the thread I suggested. For more you may want to go to the following threads and make your comments there.
Doctrines --> can humans BE God?
Doctrines --> Defy physics?
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A question:kmaherali wrote:As I said not all phenomena can be explained through the existing scientific laws. Science itself is evolving. The Newtonion laws don't apply to the quantum world of subatomic particles. The powers available to the Pir or any God-realized person are not comprehensible to the general public.FreeLancer wrote: You are not specific, how will you explain and answer youth to satisfy them. Just some confused statements won't solve the problem. What is scientific justification for that event.
You haven't gone to the thread I suggested. For more you may want to go to the following threads and make your comments there.
Doctrines --> can humans BE God?
Doctrines --> Defy physics?
Why a dead body mostly swim on water where as a live person drown. Is soul so heavy? Any religious explanation.