Reincarnation

tereishqnachaya · Post by **tereishqnachaya** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:20 am

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Do only Khojas believe in Reincarnation or do other Ismailis as well?

agakhani · Post by **agakhani** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:11 am

There is no difference between Ismaili Khojas and Ismailis!.

FYI:- There are also "Ishnaashri Khojas"which diverted from Ismaili sect therefore they still called and recognized as "Khojas".

Unfortunately not all Ismailis believe in reincarnation, specially those Ismailis who do not read Ginans or not believe in the theory of 10 incarceration and only rely on Quran. Do you know that reincarnation quoted 23 in Quran!?? while Ismaili ginans are loaded about reincarnation.

tret · Post by **tret** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:47 am

agakhani wrote:There is no difference between Ismaili Khojas and Ismailis!.

FYI:- There are also "Ishnaashri Khojas"which diverted from Ismaili sect therefore they still called and recognized as "Khojas".

Unfortunately not all Ismailis believe in reincarnation, specially those Ismailis who do not read Ginans or not believe in the theory of 10 incarceration and only rely on Quran. Do you know that reincarnation quoted 23 in Quran!?? while Ismaili ginans are loaded about reincarnation.

can you reference any Farmaan about re-incarnation please? You can send me a private message if you don't want to post it in open forum.

agakhani · Post by **agakhani** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:07 pm

Off course brother Tret,

Farman of Sultan Mohammad Shah (s.a.) on Reincarnation:-

The philosophy of ten incarnations (DAS AVTAR) should be taken and explained in the light of Islamic principal; also the understanding of 'ALLAH'S NOOR', whose lineal descent is from even before the creation, should be given. The principals of pir Sadardin , the time of Shri Islam Shah has explained, they should be explained in similar manner.

Kalam -e- Imam -e- Mubin part II page-473

Now you may have question why I put this Farman openly?? the answer is this farmans is already in Ismaili.net web site so, there is no need to hide it.

tereishqnachaya · Post by **tereishqnachaya** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:21 pm

agakhani wrote:There is no difference between Ismaili Khojas and Ismailis!.

FYI:- There are also "Ishnaashri Khojas"which diverted from Ismaili sect therefore they still called and recognized as "Khojas".

Unfortunately not all Ismailis believe in reincarnation, specially those Ismailis who do not read Ginans or not believe in the theory of 10 incarceration and only rely on Quran. Do you know that reincarnation quoted 23 in Quran!?? while Ismaili ginans are loaded about reincarnation.

Quoted 23 times or...?

a_27826 · Post by **a_27826** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:57 pm

agakhani wrote: Unfortunately not all Ismailis believe in reincarnation, specially those Ismailis who do not read Ginans or not believe in the theory of 10 incarceration and only rely on Quran. Do you know that reincarnation quoted 23 in Quran!?? while Ismaili ginans are loaded about reincarnation.

Surely those Ismailis who do not read Ginans must be aware of at least some of these 23 verses in the Quran.

Maybe Ismailis who do not read Ginans, also do not read Quran.

Can you copy paste these 23 verses here? chapter and verse numbers only will do.

Post by **Admin** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:21 pm

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