WHAT SHOULD WE VISUALIZE DURING BANDAGI

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hussainkhan55
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WHAT SHOULD WE VISUALIZE DURING BANDAGI

Post by hussainkhan55 »

Theres one issue that i and infact every person esp. Ismaili should and want to be enlightened about is What should we visualize during bandagi? I feel myself confounded during meditation and try to imagine the name of ALLAH. Anyways, i am torn and confused about what to visualize. I've tried to keep my mind empty of thoughts but in vain as I CANNOT HELP MYSELF THINKING ABOUT ANYTHING that obviously digresses me away from the spiritual bounty gained from concentration. The main question is WHAT I OUGHT TO THINK DURING MEDITATION? and WHAT NAME SHOULD I REPEAT DURING MEDITATION? Please enlighten me in light of Holy Quran or else Pir's Ginans and sayings of Hazar Imam i.e FROM ANY SOURCE? Please this answer will surely remove my doubts and liberate me? Thanks
kmaherali
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Post by kmaherali »

I think what we are trying to attain through bandagi is beyond form and name and hence we should not visualize any form. Peer Sadardeen explains in the Ginan verse below:

sakhee ved kitaab maa(n)he ke e gam naahee re
tee-aa(n) nahee divas nahee raat ke dhup na chhaa(n)i re.........11

O beloved ones, the description or the experience is not given in the vedas (scriptures) or in any books because in this state there is neither day nor night nor sun nor shade. (In other words this experience is
beyond intellect and hence undescribable.)


sakhee kahevaa sareekho nathee ke maaro saamee jee re
eto jovaa sareekho chhe alakh anaamee re.........................12

O beloved ones, my Lord (attained through this experience) does
not bear any telling (as He is undescribable) and He is nameless.
He can only be seen or experienced.


sakhee alakh anaamee saaheb laagyaa mitthaa re
bhanne peer sadardeen shaah, me najare deetthaa re...............13

O beloved ones, this nameless and indescriptible Lord was felt to
be very sweet to me. Peer Sadardeen teaches this ginaan and says:
"I have seen the Lord with my own eyes".


As to what name we need to focus our attention, this has been discussed at:

Rites and ceremonies --> BAITULKHAYAL-BANDAGI WITHOUT BOL?

http://www.ismaili.net/html/modules.php ... 43&start=0
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