info needed on IMAM SMS farman

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YA ALI MADAD

Is there any sermon or statement made by Imam SMS and other Imams on
'Understanding '(not the wordings) of our Ismaili Kalima? If any please share it
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Ya Ali Madad:

I am seeking information of the words also words akin to it as said by any Imams.Prophet/Pirs or great sagas of their time.

The words are as:
" KNOW THYSELF KNOW GOD."
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First any one have to know :How many Kalimas are there for a Muslim?
The answer may be surprising many but there are 6 different Kalimas are there and below are the list with details:

1, The Word of Purity (Tayyabah)
LA ILAHA ILL ALLAH MUHAMMADUR-RASOOL ALLAH

(There is no God but Allah Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah)

2, The word of Testimony (Shahaadat)
Ash-hadu an-La illaha ill Allahu, Wahdahu La Sharika lah, wa ash-Hadu anna Muhammadan 'abduhu wa Rasoolu

(I bear witness that no-one is worthy of worship but Allah, the One alone, without partner, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger)

3, The word of Glorification (Tumjeed)
Subhan Allahu, wal Hamdu lillahi, wa la illaha ilAllahu, wallahu Akbar. wa La hawla wa la quwwata illa billah-al 'alii-al 'adheem

(Glory be to Allah and Praise to Allah, and there is no God But Allah, and Allah is the Greatest. And there is no Might or Power except with Allah.)

4, The word of Unity (Tauhid)
La ilaha illAllahu Wahdahu La Shareeka lahu Lahul Mulku, Wala-hul Hamd, Yuhee Wa Yumeet, wa huwa Haiy-yul la Yamootu beyadihil khair, wa huwa 'ala kulli Shay'in Qadeer

(There is) none worthy of worship except Allah. He is only One. (There is) no partners for Him. For Him (is) the Kingdom. And for Him (is) the Praise. He gives life and acuses death. And He (is) Alive. He will not die, never, ever. Possessor of Majesty and Reverence. In His hand (is) the goodness. And He (is) the goodness. And He (is) on everything powerful.)

5, The word of Penitence (Astaghfar)
Astaghfirullaha Rabii min kulli dhanbin adhnabtahu amadan aw khataan, sirran aw alani-yatan wa atubu illaih minadh-dhanbilladhi, la a'lamu, innaka anta allamul ghayub, wa sattar ul'uyoubi, wa ghaffarudh-dhunubi, wa la hawla wa la quwwatta illa billahil alliyyil 'adheem

(I seek forgiveness from Allah, my Lord, from every sin I committed knowingly or unknowingly, secretly or openly, and I turn towards Him from the sin that I know and from the sin that I do not know. Certainly You, You (are) the knower of the hidden things and the Concealer (of) the mistakes and the Forgiver (of) the sins. And (there is) no power and no strength except from Allah, the Most High, the Most Great)

6, The words of rejecting disbelief (Rud-A-Kuffer)
Allahumma innii a'udhu bika min an ushrika bika shai-anw- wa ana a'lamu bihii. Tubtu anhu wa tabarra-tu min al-kufri wash-shirki wal-kizdhbi wal-ghiibati wal-bid’ati wan-namiimati wal fawaahishi wal-buhtani w-al-ma’aasii kulliha. Wa aslamtu wa aquulu La illaha illAllahu Muhammadur RasulAllah

(O Allah! Certainly I seek protection with You from, that I associate partner with You anything and I know it. And I seek forgiveness from You for that I do not know it. I repended from it and I made myself free from disbelief and polytheism and the falsehood and the back-biting and the innovation and the tell-tales and the bad deeds and the blame and the disobedience, all of them. And I submit and I say (there is) none worthy of
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Ya Ali madad:

I need very specific reply .Is there any farmans of Imam calling jamatkhanas as' house of God'.It need exact words and not extract n copy paste of speeches.
I may have a different definition or is it 'MOMAN NO DIL EE KHUDAVANTALLAA NO GHAR CHE.'

I feel re understanding of basics is needed for upward movement
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To my recollection, there is a definition in the ismaili Constitution R&R documents signed by the Imam. You may want first to go through that document.
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nuseri wrote:Ya Ali Madad:

I am seeking information of the words also words akin to it as said by any Imams.Prophet/Pirs or great sagas of their time.

The words are as:
" KNOW THYSELF KNOW GOD."
Saying of Hazarat Ali:

"He who knows himself knows his Lord"

Man arafa nafsahu arafa rab hu.
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nuseri wrote:Ya Ali madad:

I need very specific reply .Is there any farmans of Imam calling jamatkhanas as' house of God'.It need exact words and not extract n copy paste of speeches.
I may have a different definition or is it 'MOMAN NO DIL EE KHUDAVANTALLAA NO GHAR CHE.'

I feel re understanding of basics is needed for upward movement
MHI made the Farman in Dar-es-Salaam (Tuesday, October 11,1988):

"And remember that although I leave you physically, I am with you all the time, in every Jamatkhana, all the time."

Doesn't that mean that every Jamat Khana is his house?
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Post by Admin »

I remember a Farman of Aga Ali Shah that says that even the soul of the Ruhani come to pray in J.K.
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To Admin: Ya ali madad.
there is no specific farman perse but you are trying to read else into it.
ALI address us as spritual children so all are recocnized as souls and not a group.etc.
If you n maybe even me were to realize that our souls status from 1900 years till date.
Are we not the souls (ruhanis) going to J.K ?

To Agakhani: welcome back.
'ghar ke buddhu ghar ko aaye'. 'jagya etlee savaar.'
well zznoor was not harmful but got miserably stuck that in any education system all thing end at physical
drill n ringa ringa roses to graduate all of education at masters level.
BTW she kept many bloggers busy to study the deads n the past n seek contarian view of sharaiti statements.
you had posted your fonr number n email add.somebody want to know more about datas of ginan.
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