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Chandraat vs Eid. They are both important.
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faisall667
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Chandraat vs Eid. They are both important.
Is Chandraat more important or Eid? And I am refering to the majilis and namaaz (respectively). In my mind I see Chandraat as more important than Eid, and it is because I have heard a farman of either Hazir Imam or Sulatan Muhamad Shah saying that Chandraat is an important majilis and people should attend in high numbers. I was wondering if there was a farman pertaining to Eid in this manner. And I would also like your view.
Faisal
Faisal
Chandraat vs Idd
You have raised an interesting issue! I have deliberately delayed this post so as not to dampen the spirit of Idd which was celebrated well by the Canadian Jamats with Jaman (biriyanis and akhnis etc)!
In my opinion Idd festivals are really 'shariati' festivals. They serve to identify us as Muslims, otherwise there is nothing else we share with our fellow Muslims from the external or outward expression of faith in a communal sense. Our approach to prayers, fasting and hajj is different than the rest of the Muslims. I have not come across any Farmans or Ginans that mention Idd although our Imams have recited Idd Namaz.
Chandraat on the other hand is an important Tariqah practice or institution established by Imam Sultan Muhammad Shah. It has a great deal of spiritual significance and special tasbihs are recited. It is mandatory to attend. Important farmans relating to the fundamental principles i.e. Dasond and Dua are normally recited on the occasion.
In my opinion Idd festivals are really 'shariati' festivals. They serve to identify us as Muslims, otherwise there is nothing else we share with our fellow Muslims from the external or outward expression of faith in a communal sense. Our approach to prayers, fasting and hajj is different than the rest of the Muslims. I have not come across any Farmans or Ginans that mention Idd although our Imams have recited Idd Namaz.
Chandraat on the other hand is an important Tariqah practice or institution established by Imam Sultan Muhammad Shah. It has a great deal of spiritual significance and special tasbihs are recited. It is mandatory to attend. Important farmans relating to the fundamental principles i.e. Dasond and Dua are normally recited on the occasion.
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Re: Farmans
YAM,shamsu wrote:According to Imam SMS farmans
A momin fasts every day of the year (Keeping thoughts pure) and the day Eid is celebrated is when he passes from this world.
Would you be able to quote the exact Farman or the date? I would like to see the exact words. In particular I am interested in what he means by passing from this world.
Eid ul fitr is for those who fast in the month of ramadan ..
Eid ul Adha is for the one who does Qurbani for the sake of Allah.
chandraat starts a new month of islamic calender. what else it does ?
Eid is a festival to celebrate. Chandraat is just a start of new month. You pray but der is nothing to celebrate except zilhaj.
Eid ul Adha is for the one who does Qurbani for the sake of Allah.
chandraat starts a new month of islamic calender. what else it does ?
Eid is a festival to celebrate. Chandraat is just a start of new month. You pray but der is nothing to celebrate except zilhaj.
Narrated Ibn Abbas:
The Prophet said, "No good deeds done on other days are superior to those done on these (first ten days of Dhul Hijja)." Then some companions of the Prophet said, "Not even Jihad?" He replied, "Not even Jihad, except that of a man who does it by putting himself and his property in danger (for Allah's sake) and does not return with any of those things."
The Prophet said, "No good deeds done on other days are superior to those done on these (first ten days of Dhul Hijja)." Then some companions of the Prophet said, "Not even Jihad?" He replied, "Not even Jihad, except that of a man who does it by putting himself and his property in danger (for Allah's sake) and does not return with any of those things."
According to Ismaili interpretation of Islam, the Farmans of the Hazar Imam are more important than the Quran and the Hadiths. Our 48th Imam established the institution of Chandraat Mandli and made it compulsory upon Ismailis to attend it in large numbers. According to him, it is a day of new moon and it brings peace and spiritual happiness to receptive souls and hence revives them spiritually.
Also, the dates of all other regular monthly majalis are based upon the date of Chandraat.
Also, the dates of all other regular monthly majalis are based upon the date of Chandraat.
It would also be interesting for you to note that Islam is pluralistic. That there are many interpretations of Islam possible. According to Shia Ismaili interpretation MHI interpretes and contextualizes Allah's message and in that sense his message is equivalent to Allah's but more recent than the Quran.
"By the institution of the 'Ulu'l-Amr', who can be interpreted as Imam and Caliph, and by placing obedience to 'Ulu'l-Amr' immediately after that to God and Prophet, he ensured that the Faith would ever remain living, extending, developing with science, knowledge, art and industry."
-Hz. Imam Sultan Muhammed Shah Aga Khan III (Sept. 1934)
"By the institution of the 'Ulu'l-Amr', who can be interpreted as Imam and Caliph, and by placing obedience to 'Ulu'l-Amr' immediately after that to God and Prophet, he ensured that the Faith would ever remain living, extending, developing with science, knowledge, art and industry."
-Hz. Imam Sultan Muhammed Shah Aga Khan III (Sept. 1934)
Well, this is one area where Ismailis have a similarity with Ithna 'Ashari Shias: both Ismaili and Ithna Ashari Shias believe that the Imam's words constitute a part of hadith. When Ithna 'Ashari Shias talk about hadith and sunnah, they include the sayings and example of all the ma'sumin, not just the Prophet. The same applies to Ismailis.Sooper wrote:Words of Imam are more important than the words of Allah .. Interesting
As the Imam is hazir and mawjud in Ismailism, there's a modern and living source of ahadith, whom Ismailis are bound to follow.
Allah hafiz,
ON