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Many non ismaili muslims believes that according to Islam women should wear those dresses which completly cover their body since there is not concept of purdah and hijab in ismailism. Do dresses like skirts are allowed in ismailism??
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Imam SMS had asked Ismailies in Africa, for the women to dress up like the Begum of the Imam. Imam had also sent a picture of the begum and if my memory serves me right, she was wearing a skirt in the picture or a dress.
This is like over 50 or 60 years ago Munir, so the religious education teachers will have to come up with a farman about wearing salwar kurtas before they can criticize skirts and dresses as there is farman about wearing them.(although the farmans was for the Africa Jamat and since there is no farman for the pakistan jamat with regard to dresses and skirts nobody can advise against wearing them while on an institutional platform like an R.E. teacher)
Its just my opinion I could be wrong
Shams
This is like over 50 or 60 years ago Munir, so the religious education teachers will have to come up with a farman about wearing salwar kurtas before they can criticize skirts and dresses as there is farman about wearing them.(although the farmans was for the Africa Jamat and since there is no farman for the pakistan jamat with regard to dresses and skirts nobody can advise against wearing them while on an institutional platform like an R.E. teacher)
Its just my opinion I could be wrong
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Re: Clothing
shamsu wrote:Imam SMS had asked Ismailies in Africa, for the women to dress up like the Begum of the Imam. Imam had also sent a picture of the begum and if my memory serves me right, she was wearing a skirt in the picture or a dress.
Shams
Shams here is the message from MSMS:
Autographed photo of His Royal Highness Mowlana Sultan Mahomed Shah and Mata Salamat Message reads: "I give My best Paternal Blessings to all who adopt simple colonial dress, Aga Khan 1952"
Mata Salamat was wearing a dress.
Fatwa orders Indian tennis star to cover up
Muslim clerics have yet come up with another Fatwa. This time they are after this young tennis star. Here is the artilce I picked up from the news.
Fatwa orders Indian tennis star to cover up
Randeep Ramesh in Delhi
Saturday September 10, 2005
A group of Muslim clerics has issued a religious diktat demanding that India's teenage tennis star Sania Mirza cover up during matches, saying that her skirts and T-shirts are "un-Islamic" and "corrupting".
The 18-year-old Muslim is one of India's most visible sporting icons, with companies lining up to use her face on hoardings and adverts.
This year she became the first woman from the country to break into world tennis's top 50 after becoming the first Indian to win a Women's Tennis Association title - in her home city of Hyderabad. Last week she reached the fourth round of the US Open, losing to world No 1 Maria Sharapova.
"Sania mania" is gripping the country, and the teenager cannot leave home without a security guard.
Her high profile has caught the attention of religious leaders and Haseeb-ul-hasan Siddiqui, a leading cleric with the Sunni Ulema Board, has issued the fatwa because of her "indecent dressing" on the court and in advertisements.
"The dress she wears on the tennis courts not only doesn't cover large parts of her body but leaves nothing to the imagination," he said.
India has the world's second largest Muslim population, of 130 million. Mirza, from a devout Muslim family, has refused to comment on the edict. Her family has made it clear that she is a practising Muslim.
Known for her trademark nose ring and spirited attitude, the tennis star is a role model for many young Indians and has often raised a smile with her wardrobe. At her post-match news conference in New York last week she wore a T-shirt that said, "I'm cute?"
At Wimbledon, where she lost in the second round to the 2004 US Open champion, Svetlana Kuznetsova, her top was emblazoned with the words: "Well-behaved women rarely make history."
The Sunni Ulema Board says it is worried about her influence. "She will undoubtedly be a corrupting influence on these young women, which we want to prevent," Mr Siddiqui said.
The board recommended that she follow the example of Iranian women who wore long tunics and headscarves to play in the Asian badminton championship in Hyderabad this week.
Mirza has not hidden her exasperation with questions about her dress. "I don't think you should take a lot of things seriously that I wear," she told reporters earlier this year. "It's just a T-shirt."
Fatwa orders Indian tennis star to cover up
Randeep Ramesh in Delhi
Saturday September 10, 2005
A group of Muslim clerics has issued a religious diktat demanding that India's teenage tennis star Sania Mirza cover up during matches, saying that her skirts and T-shirts are "un-Islamic" and "corrupting".
The 18-year-old Muslim is one of India's most visible sporting icons, with companies lining up to use her face on hoardings and adverts.
This year she became the first woman from the country to break into world tennis's top 50 after becoming the first Indian to win a Women's Tennis Association title - in her home city of Hyderabad. Last week she reached the fourth round of the US Open, losing to world No 1 Maria Sharapova.
"Sania mania" is gripping the country, and the teenager cannot leave home without a security guard.
Her high profile has caught the attention of religious leaders and Haseeb-ul-hasan Siddiqui, a leading cleric with the Sunni Ulema Board, has issued the fatwa because of her "indecent dressing" on the court and in advertisements.
"The dress she wears on the tennis courts not only doesn't cover large parts of her body but leaves nothing to the imagination," he said.
India has the world's second largest Muslim population, of 130 million. Mirza, from a devout Muslim family, has refused to comment on the edict. Her family has made it clear that she is a practising Muslim.
Known for her trademark nose ring and spirited attitude, the tennis star is a role model for many young Indians and has often raised a smile with her wardrobe. At her post-match news conference in New York last week she wore a T-shirt that said, "I'm cute?"
At Wimbledon, where she lost in the second round to the 2004 US Open champion, Svetlana Kuznetsova, her top was emblazoned with the words: "Well-behaved women rarely make history."
The Sunni Ulema Board says it is worried about her influence. "She will undoubtedly be a corrupting influence on these young women, which we want to prevent," Mr Siddiqui said.
The board recommended that she follow the example of Iranian women who wore long tunics and headscarves to play in the Asian badminton championship in Hyderabad this week.
Mirza has not hidden her exasperation with questions about her dress. "I don't think you should take a lot of things seriously that I wear," she told reporters earlier this year. "It's just a T-shirt."
[quote]Her high profile has caught the attention of religious leaders and Haseeb-ul-hasan Siddiqui, a leading cleric with the Sunni Ulema Board, has issued the fatwa because of her "indecent dressing" on the court and in advertisements.
"The dress she wears on the tennis courts not only doesn't cover large parts of her body but leaves nothing to the imagination," he said.
Qur'an asks all believing men and women to lower their gaze.
I have a question for Mr. Siddiqui, is there a fatwa against people who do not lower their gaze?
The Saudis have banned football because players attire is considered un-Islamic.
How about banning harassing men from Kaba during Hajj? It is the worst kind of SPORT.
Virgo2
"The dress she wears on the tennis courts not only doesn't cover large parts of her body but leaves nothing to the imagination," he said.
Qur'an asks all believing men and women to lower their gaze.
I have a question for Mr. Siddiqui, is there a fatwa against people who do not lower their gaze?
The Saudis have banned football because players attire is considered un-Islamic.
How about banning harassing men from Kaba during Hajj? It is the worst kind of SPORT.
Virgo2
Tennis is a very enjoyable sport to play and watch. However, the dressing and behaviour of some players particularly women distorts the otherwise very good image of the sport. Some of the players dress up very indecently even to the standards of the West.
Roger Federer, the men’s No.1, dresses up very decently with knee length shorts and t-shirts with sleeves. No wonder he is so successful and well respected.
Players from Muslim background can contribute significantly towards improving this aspect of the sport. I am not suggesting that they play with burkhas or pyjama type of dressing. They could still play with knee length skirts or shorts for example.
Although on almost all issues I have disagreed with the clerics, on this one, I am inclined to agree with him.
Roger Federer, the men’s No.1, dresses up very decently with knee length shorts and t-shirts with sleeves. No wonder he is so successful and well respected.
Players from Muslim background can contribute significantly towards improving this aspect of the sport. I am not suggesting that they play with burkhas or pyjama type of dressing. They could still play with knee length skirts or shorts for example.
Although on almost all issues I have disagreed with the clerics, on this one, I am inclined to agree with him.
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I dont think that muslim group or board has any right to judge the faith of any girl on the basis of her dressings..As her parents says that she is practising muslim.
Muslim Ulema board may thinks "indecent dressing" but as per her it is appropriate as she said." "I don't think you should take a lot of things seriously that I wear," she told reporters earlier this year. "It's just a T-shirt."
Many muslim ulemas are such narrow minded that even if a girl is wearing sleeveless Salwar kurta they behave that its the wrost sin and consider it inappropriate.
I think she must not follow the muslim board who has no authority from God to judge what is good and what is bad and she should continue what she likes to do previously.
Muslim Ulema board may thinks "indecent dressing" but as per her it is appropriate as she said." "I don't think you should take a lot of things seriously that I wear," she told reporters earlier this year. "It's just a T-shirt."
Many muslim ulemas are such narrow minded that even if a girl is wearing sleeveless Salwar kurta they behave that its the wrost sin and consider it inappropriate.
I think she must not follow the muslim board who has no authority from God to judge what is good and what is bad and she should continue what she likes to do previously.
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This is interesting because it shows that there are many Muslim clerics who are not fundamentalist are flexible to the realities of our times.
Short skirt gets cleric support
Herald News Services
Monday, September 12, 2005
Top Muslim clerics came out in support of India's teen tennis sensation Sania Mirza, days after a Muslim group in her hometown issued an edict describing her short skirts and sleeveless shirts as un-Islamic.
"What Sania wears in (the) tennis court is the demand of the game," said Khalid Rashid of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, which arbitrates over religion-related issues for more than 160 million Muslims living in this country.
"Perhaps, the fatwa (edict) was issued to gain cheap publicity," Rashid told The Associated Press.
Last week, the Sunni Ulema Board -- a little-known group in Mirza's hometown Hyderabad -- issued the edict saying Islam did not permit women to wear skirts, shorts and sleeveless tops in public, and that Mirza should cover up.
Newspaper reports quoted the Sunni Ulema Board's chief, Hasheeb-ul-Siddiqui, saying he was worried Mirza was becoming a role model for young Muslim girls.
The 18-year-old Muslim tennis player, the first Indian woman to break into the top 50 WTA rankings, dismissed the fatwa.
Mirza was ousted from the U.S. Open in the fourth round.
Second Glance: Commentary, People Schedules, TV
© The Calgary Herald 2005
Short skirt gets cleric support
Herald News Services
Monday, September 12, 2005
Top Muslim clerics came out in support of India's teen tennis sensation Sania Mirza, days after a Muslim group in her hometown issued an edict describing her short skirts and sleeveless shirts as un-Islamic.
"What Sania wears in (the) tennis court is the demand of the game," said Khalid Rashid of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, which arbitrates over religion-related issues for more than 160 million Muslims living in this country.
"Perhaps, the fatwa (edict) was issued to gain cheap publicity," Rashid told The Associated Press.
Last week, the Sunni Ulema Board -- a little-known group in Mirza's hometown Hyderabad -- issued the edict saying Islam did not permit women to wear skirts, shorts and sleeveless tops in public, and that Mirza should cover up.
Newspaper reports quoted the Sunni Ulema Board's chief, Hasheeb-ul-Siddiqui, saying he was worried Mirza was becoming a role model for young Muslim girls.
The 18-year-old Muslim tennis player, the first Indian woman to break into the top 50 WTA rankings, dismissed the fatwa.
Mirza was ousted from the U.S. Open in the fourth round.
Second Glance: Commentary, People Schedules, TV
© The Calgary Herald 2005
I think years back women players did wear long flocks knee length and blouses with sleeves but nowadays the clothes are usually short and somewhat tight. Women usually still stick with the thigh-length tennis skirts and shorts.
Players want to be comfortable. There's a lot of running, stretching and bending in tennis so the clothes they wear are shorter to give more room and freedom of movements. They don't want to have to think about their skirt flying up. They want room in the sleeves so they can reach for a serve. It helps them play better when they're not having to think about their clothes. There are certain guidelines they have to follow.
I think it should be left with the players how they wish to dress, for if you feel good you play good.
Players want to be comfortable. There's a lot of running, stretching and bending in tennis so the clothes they wear are shorter to give more room and freedom of movements. They don't want to have to think about their skirt flying up. They want room in the sleeves so they can reach for a serve. It helps them play better when they're not having to think about their clothes. There are certain guidelines they have to follow.
I think it should be left with the players how they wish to dress, for if you feel good you play good.
kmaherali said
[quote]Players from Muslim background can contribute significantly towards improving this aspect of the sport. I am not suggesting that they play with burkhas or pyjama type of dressing. They could still play with knee length skirts or shorts for example.
I couldnt agree with you more. Young tennis players have a tendency to become sex symbols more than tennis players in recent past. Ask any young men if they havent seen Anna kornikova play tennis but they have definitely seen her Other pics.
Besides Mens tennis is considered tougher and if they can play comfortably in shorts why does women need mini skirts?
[quote]Players from Muslim background can contribute significantly towards improving this aspect of the sport. I am not suggesting that they play with burkhas or pyjama type of dressing. They could still play with knee length skirts or shorts for example.
I couldnt agree with you more. Young tennis players have a tendency to become sex symbols more than tennis players in recent past. Ask any young men if they havent seen Anna kornikova play tennis but they have definitely seen her Other pics.
Besides Mens tennis is considered tougher and if they can play comfortably in shorts why does women need mini skirts?
Indian tennis player courts controversy
Indian tennis sensation Sania Mirza, a devout Muslim, is being slammed by some for her attire
She's come to symbolize discord between the secular and religious worlds
RANDY STARKMAN
She's one of India's most celebrated athletes — and that's including the cricketers — but Sania Mirza's life has become a tempest in a tennis skirt.
Billboards in India show her face and boast that a billion people are behind her. She was listed recently by Britain's New Statesman magazine as one of 10 people who can change the world. Her accomplishments on the court are applauded, but the same can't be said for her attire. Mirza, an elite player who describes herself as a devout Muslim, is under criticism for what she wears in her job as a professional tennis player.
Contrasted with flashy Serena Williams or girl-next-door Maria Sharapova, and Mirza's standard skirt-polo shirt combo looks pretty tame. But the Qur'an says that women should cover themselves for modesty, and some clerics believe her tennis outfit doesn't fit that bill.
"Sania Mirza is a Muslim and she stands half-naked on the tennis court while playing, which is against Islam," Siddikulla Chowdhury, secretary of the Jamiat-e-Ulama-e-Hind, a Muslim organization, said in an interview with Agence France-Presse last month.
Another cleric, Maulana Hasheeb-ul-Hasan Siddiqui, told the Hindustan Times: "The dress she wears on the tennis court not only doesn't cover large parts of her body but leaves nothing to the imagination of voyeurs. She will undoubtedly be a corrupting influence on these women."
The Jamiat-e-Ulama-e-Hind in Calcutta issued a fatwa, or edict, before Mirza played there in a tournament last month, saying she would be stopped from participating if she didn't wear proper clothing. Security was beefed up and the event went off without incident.
Tarek Fatah, who hosts Muslim Chronicle on CTS, a religious-based TV station operating out of Burlington, is enraged by the suggestion that Mirza is corrupting young minds, and says the criticism is a result of men threatened by the empowerment of women.
"It's not about showing skin. That has nothing to do with it," Fatah said. "The same people who were appalled at a woman leading prayers are the same people who are upset at a young woman playing tennis.
"It's contempt and fear of women in a leadership position," he said. "Sania Mirza is the ultimate nightmare for the fundamentalist Muslim because she represents the empowerment of women and is a success story."
And Professor Haideh Moghissi, a York University professor who specializes in fundamentalism and women's rights in the Middle East, says the clerics who condemn Mirza aren't true guardians of Islam but opportunists who are intent on making political hay.
"This is very, very opportunistic, and we have these people both inside and outside the Islamic world," she said.
"They are manipulating the grievances of Muslims to basically present themselves as guardians of Islamic moral institutions," she said. "I don't think the issue is the issue of sport and Islam."
Many dismissed the fatwa against Mirza as a short-lived tornado, noting that it quickly blew over and was the product of the radical fringe. Several groups gave her their full support, including the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, the Muslim Council of Bengal and the Muslim Women's Jamaat Committee.
In the New Statesman, she was described as having the power to inspire girls to take up sport — and much more.
"She may not have won a major tournament, yet already she occupies a role through which flow many of the most significant intellectual and cultural currents of our times: the clash between secularism and political Islam, the emancipation of women in the Muslim world, the dominance of celebrity, the tyranny of the image, the emergence of India as a world power."
Mirza is an icon in India, her fame transcending the sports world, and she was the first female Indian athlete to be featured on the cover of Time magazine's Asia edition. Her sponsorships are in the $1.5 million (U.S.) range.
She has created quite a stir on the women's tennis circuit, vaulting from 326th to 34th in the world rankings. The 18-year-old is the first Indian-born player to reach the fourth round of the U.S. Open, which she did this year, helping to further spawn "Mirza-mania" and boost her popularity ahead of most cricket players back home.
Her role-model status spurred the state of Chhattisgarh to propose that its 285 state-owned seminaries learn from books that would include a chapter devoted entirely to Mirza's accomplishments. It would have reached more than 17,000 schoolchildren. But the proposal was withdrawn because of threats against the authors.
Part of Mirza's appeal among youth is undoubtedly partly based on her aggressive style on the court and daring fashion sense, which includes wearing T-shirts with slogans at events that read "Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History" and "You Can Either Agree With Me — Or Be Wrong."
But she has been very reticent to talk about the firestorm her clothing has created in parts of the Muslim community.
"It is quite disturbing that my dress has become the subject of controversy," Mirza said at a news conference in India after the U.S. Open. "I don't want to say anything on this."
Indian tennis sensation Sania Mirza, a devout Muslim, is being slammed by some for her attire
She's come to symbolize discord between the secular and religious worlds
RANDY STARKMAN
She's one of India's most celebrated athletes — and that's including the cricketers — but Sania Mirza's life has become a tempest in a tennis skirt.
Billboards in India show her face and boast that a billion people are behind her. She was listed recently by Britain's New Statesman magazine as one of 10 people who can change the world. Her accomplishments on the court are applauded, but the same can't be said for her attire. Mirza, an elite player who describes herself as a devout Muslim, is under criticism for what she wears in her job as a professional tennis player.
Contrasted with flashy Serena Williams or girl-next-door Maria Sharapova, and Mirza's standard skirt-polo shirt combo looks pretty tame. But the Qur'an says that women should cover themselves for modesty, and some clerics believe her tennis outfit doesn't fit that bill.
"Sania Mirza is a Muslim and she stands half-naked on the tennis court while playing, which is against Islam," Siddikulla Chowdhury, secretary of the Jamiat-e-Ulama-e-Hind, a Muslim organization, said in an interview with Agence France-Presse last month.
Another cleric, Maulana Hasheeb-ul-Hasan Siddiqui, told the Hindustan Times: "The dress she wears on the tennis court not only doesn't cover large parts of her body but leaves nothing to the imagination of voyeurs. She will undoubtedly be a corrupting influence on these women."
The Jamiat-e-Ulama-e-Hind in Calcutta issued a fatwa, or edict, before Mirza played there in a tournament last month, saying she would be stopped from participating if she didn't wear proper clothing. Security was beefed up and the event went off without incident.
Tarek Fatah, who hosts Muslim Chronicle on CTS, a religious-based TV station operating out of Burlington, is enraged by the suggestion that Mirza is corrupting young minds, and says the criticism is a result of men threatened by the empowerment of women.
"It's not about showing skin. That has nothing to do with it," Fatah said. "The same people who were appalled at a woman leading prayers are the same people who are upset at a young woman playing tennis.
"It's contempt and fear of women in a leadership position," he said. "Sania Mirza is the ultimate nightmare for the fundamentalist Muslim because she represents the empowerment of women and is a success story."
And Professor Haideh Moghissi, a York University professor who specializes in fundamentalism and women's rights in the Middle East, says the clerics who condemn Mirza aren't true guardians of Islam but opportunists who are intent on making political hay.
"This is very, very opportunistic, and we have these people both inside and outside the Islamic world," she said.
"They are manipulating the grievances of Muslims to basically present themselves as guardians of Islamic moral institutions," she said. "I don't think the issue is the issue of sport and Islam."
Many dismissed the fatwa against Mirza as a short-lived tornado, noting that it quickly blew over and was the product of the radical fringe. Several groups gave her their full support, including the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, the Muslim Council of Bengal and the Muslim Women's Jamaat Committee.
In the New Statesman, she was described as having the power to inspire girls to take up sport — and much more.
"She may not have won a major tournament, yet already she occupies a role through which flow many of the most significant intellectual and cultural currents of our times: the clash between secularism and political Islam, the emancipation of women in the Muslim world, the dominance of celebrity, the tyranny of the image, the emergence of India as a world power."
Mirza is an icon in India, her fame transcending the sports world, and she was the first female Indian athlete to be featured on the cover of Time magazine's Asia edition. Her sponsorships are in the $1.5 million (U.S.) range.
She has created quite a stir on the women's tennis circuit, vaulting from 326th to 34th in the world rankings. The 18-year-old is the first Indian-born player to reach the fourth round of the U.S. Open, which she did this year, helping to further spawn "Mirza-mania" and boost her popularity ahead of most cricket players back home.
Her role-model status spurred the state of Chhattisgarh to propose that its 285 state-owned seminaries learn from books that would include a chapter devoted entirely to Mirza's accomplishments. It would have reached more than 17,000 schoolchildren. But the proposal was withdrawn because of threats against the authors.
Part of Mirza's appeal among youth is undoubtedly partly based on her aggressive style on the court and daring fashion sense, which includes wearing T-shirts with slogans at events that read "Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History" and "You Can Either Agree With Me — Or Be Wrong."
But she has been very reticent to talk about the firestorm her clothing has created in parts of the Muslim community.
"It is quite disturbing that my dress has become the subject of controversy," Mirza said at a news conference in India after the U.S. Open. "I don't want to say anything on this."
Pardah, as now known, itself did not exist till long after the Prophet's death and is no part of Islam. [K.K. Aziz p. 211]
-- Aga Khan III
Freedom is tending to become licence. That is not acceptable. The abuse of freedom is the misuse of freedom. And therefore, I think we have to be very careful that we understand the ethics of our faith, abide by the ethics of our faith, and explain to the others that we have our own ethics.
---Aga Khan IV [ dec 13th 2008]
pardah is not compulsary in our tariqah but that doesnt mean that we should come to jamatkhana as models , applying 5 kgs makeup ,wearing tight clothes etc etc
"ABUSE OF FREEDOM IS THE MISUSE OF FREEDOM"
Pardah is not only "not compulsory", but is rejected by our Imams. What part of "is no part of Islam" is unclear?hungama25 wrote:pardah is not compulsary in our tariqah but that doesnt mean that we should come to jamatkhana as models , applying 5 kgs makeup ,wearing tight clothes etc etc
And pay attention to your own behaviour before you start pointing out the errors everyone else is making. You spend so much time insulting other people and accusing everyone it makes me wonder what sins you are trying to hide.
Pardah is not only "not compulsory", but is rejected by our Imams. What part of "is no part of Islam" is unclear?
And pay attention to your own behaviour before you start pointing out the errors everyone else is making. You spend so much time insulting other people and accusing everyone it makes me wonder what sins you are trying to hide.
insulting ????
whom did i insult ???
and regarding pardah sister , it doesnt matter whether it is or it is not part of islam, what matters is it provides security, if you see old people in your jamatkhana they still practise pardah, they'll cover their bosoms and head with their pallu ...
this is called "ADAB"
or in short respect for jamat and hazar imamFarman bardari is Adhab.
Purdah is not farman bardari.
If Imam says get out of Purdah, it is the responsibility and the pleasure of ismaili to get out of Purdah and if some people are still keeping it by culture or tradition, this is not Adhab, it is nafarmani.
They should be informed that unless it is for Taqqiya which is allowed by our faith, they should not be in Purdah.
Nagib
Purdah is not farman bardari.
If Imam says get out of Purdah, it is the responsibility and the pleasure of ismaili to get out of Purdah and if some people are still keeping it by culture or tradition, this is not Adhab, it is nafarmani.
They should be informed that unless it is for Taqqiya which is allowed by our faith, they should not be in Purdah.
Nagib
i dont think its nafirmani , just to let you know that when hazar imam gives deedar the mukhiyani/kamyadis in that darbar cover their head and bosomsPurdah is not farman bardari.
If Imam says get out of Purdah, it is the responsibility and the pleasure of ismaili to get out of Purdah and if some people are still keeping it by culture or tradition, this is not Adhab, it is nafarmani.
now would you call it nafirmani ??
princess zahra during recent gj visit came in darbar wearing a saree, her whoooooooooooooooooole body was covered, including her hair[she had dupatta over her head]
is this nafirmani ??? how can H.I's daughter be nafirman ????
They should be informed that unless it is for Taqqiya which is allowed by our faith, they should not be in Purdah.
they dont have to be informed , it is respect that they have for H.I and the jamat
Useless discussion.
If you do not know that the oposite of farmanbardari is nafarmani, just refer to a dictionnary.
What Princess Zahra does would be according to the instructions she gets and what you should do is according to your Imam's instruction also.
"I don't think" is a sentence which does not suit people who have access to Imam's guidance.
nagib
If you do not know that the oposite of farmanbardari is nafarmani, just refer to a dictionnary.
What Princess Zahra does would be according to the instructions she gets and what you should do is according to your Imam's instruction also.
"I don't think" is a sentence which does not suit people who have access to Imam's guidance.
nagib
Useless discussion.
If you do not know that the oposite of farmanbardari is nafarmani, just refer to a dictionnary.
What Princess Zahra does would be according to the instructions she gets and what you should do is according to your Imam's instruction also.
"I don't think" is a sentence which does not suit people who have access to Imam's guidance.
if doing something against HI's FIRMAN is nafarmani then i guess all the mukhyanis/kamayadis and even princess zahra/princess yasmin and princess khaliya come in that category because it is very hypocrite to say imam has forbidden pardah but allows his top post members and his family to practise it.
as i said earlier pardah shows respect for hazar imam and the jamat
If you are not capable to accept the fact that other people can have an opinion which is different of yours, your place is not here.
There is no need of being judgmental or to involve Imam's family in your post.
Or to claim Imam's actions are hypocrite. You are put on notice.
I have been more then patient with your post in all sections. Go and read the rules before posting.
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There is no need of being judgmental or to involve Imam's family in your post.
Or to claim Imam's actions are hypocrite. You are put on notice.
I have been more then patient with your post in all sections. Go and read the rules before posting.
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