Confusion Between Yugs

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agakhani
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This is Kalyug brothers.

Post by agakhani »

I totaly agree with Goldfaizi and Star_Munir that this is Kaljug read my above post.
goldfaizi wrote:I think Evolution chart is not correct. There are some mistakes in it. Main question is :

If it is not kalyug then why there are too many sins by people now a days? Atleast we are sure that there are more sins now a days as compare to 300 years ago. Kmaherali in one of your post you had written that its 306 Years of Dwapur yug now. You had posted it in 2006. If its Dwapur Yug then there must be 50 % sins. It is true that Pir sadarddin will help 1.2 billion souls to get salvation written in Anand Akharo. Pir Sadarddin had been passed away many years ago. Right now our Imam is pir as well. Who knows what is going to be happen in future? Except our beloved Maula bapa.

I think Abu Ali Missionary is 100 % correct. We are in kalyug. China is developing day by day. Right now China has 2 million army. One day when china would have 6.4 million army then those will be last days when there will be battle between momins and daiet kalinga. According to me Daiet kalinga would be a person who would be the president of China in future because on his order everything will happen. He will be the most powerful person of the world.

In this Ginan everything is clear:

i.e GURNARTHEE BHULAA TAASU(N) VAAD NA KEEJEJEE BY PEER SHAMS

ejee gurnarthee bhulaa taa(n)su, vaad na keejejee
te avarko jeev ddolaavejee...................................1

Do not argue with the ones who have strayed away from the Guide and the Master("Gurnar"). They shake the souls of others(with doubt).

ejee gurnarthee bhulaa te to mahaa paapee kaheeyejee
gur veenaa jeevddo na chhuttejee.............................2

The ones who have strayed away from the Guide and the Master, are the greatest sinners. Without the Guide, the soul does not get salvation.

ejee aradh aasann dait puraveene betthaajee
sheshttee saghallee namaavejee...............................3

The devil is established being seated in half a posture(otherside of the throne), and forces the entire creation to bow(to him).

ejee chaalees laakh dait kaalee(n)gaanaa chelaajee
neet neet kalaa jagaayejee...................................4

There are forty lakh(four million) disciples of the evil demon. They assert their strength every day.

ejee velu mataree dait an upaavshejee
ananaa parab chalaavshejee..................................5

By reciting a word over a type of creeper, the evil demon will create food. He will operate free supply lines of this food.(He will distribute this food in an abundant manner)

ejee paannee mataree ne dait ghrat upaavshejee
ghrat naa parab chalaavshejee................................6

By reciting a word over water the evil demon will create ghee. He will operate free supply lines of this ghee. (He will make this ghee available abundantly).

ejee gaaro matareene dait golla upaavshejee
tyaa(n) gollanaa parab chalaavshejee.........................7

By reciting a word over mud the evil demon will create molasses. There he will distribute this molasses in an abundunt manner.

ejee paan mataree ne dait popatt paddhaavshejee
tene kaalee(n)gaanu(n) naam bhannaavshejee...................8

By reciting a word over a type of leaf the evil demon will cause it to recite like a parrot. He will teach it the name(message) of the devil. [phenomena of records-pop music]

ejee kaatthnaa ghoddaane dait khaann khavraavshejee
evaa chen chalaavshejee......................................9

The evil demon will feed the beasts(horses) of the neighbourhood with sugar. Such will be the wonders performed by him.

ejee muaa maannas dait kaalee(n)go jeevaaddshejee
te kal maa(n)he maai baap dekhaaddshejee....................10

The evil demon will bring to life dead men. In this age he will reveal the mother and father.

ejee meghaa ddamar dait chhatr ddhallaayshejee
ttaaddhaa ttaddhaa vaahaa varsaavshejee.....................11

The evil demon will create shelters from rain and thunderstorms. He will feel the atmosphere with cold air.

ejee traa(m)beeye rottee dait kaalee(n)go vechaavshejee
sonaa more saaheb raajo karshejee...........................12

The evil demon will trade food for copper. My kingly Lord will convert it into a gold coin.

ejee veekhaddee vellaa maa(n)he deel tthor na raheshejee
saamee raajo raakhshe tenee raheshejee......................13

In this difficult period the hearts will not remain steady. Only the ones under the protection of the Lord will remain steady.

ejee geenaan mahaaras peer shamsh boleeyaa jee
evaa evaa chen chalaavshejee................................14

This hymn which is has great nector(water of life) is recited by Peer Shams. Such will be the wonders and plays performed by the evil demons(to lure you away from the Path).

Music is one of the biggest problem which is destroying faith of people. It was a day when people took tasbi of ALLAH, MOHAMMAD AND ALI all the time many years ago. I mean to say that Music has captured mind of people.

Artificial butter is being made by water. Sugar is being made from mud. We just need to see that what is going on and we have to compare it with ginans. Peer Shams had told this Ginan many years ago to guide us. It is true that many of our brothers and sisters are leaving Ismailism because they are not aware with the essence of our religion. Ismailism is Gold for us. We can't even survive without it. These are reviewing us that its kalyug. I have posted this ginan again because i want to make it clear that it is kalyug.

In one of the Ginan i had read that Angel Izrahil said that i will come 10 times in this world. When last time i will come i will take Quran with me. Other 9 things are Love, Respect, Faith etc. In which these things are already not following by many of us. Somewhere a son is fighting with his father, someone is changing his/her caste due to lack of faith. Childrens are not giving respect to their parents. These all are winds of Kalyug. Make me correct if i would wrong.

Goldfaizi.
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Post by star_munir »

goldfaizi wrote:I have posted one ginan i.e given below:

http://www.ismaili.net/granths/040899/18.html

Another Ginan in which Peer is saying that Angel Izrahil will come in this world 10 times after Prophet Mohammad PBUH. I think its Momin Chetamni. Kindly check it and let me know too.
Just a correction..the angel is Jibrail and the Ginan is dasbateiyan
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Thanks for making me correct Star Munir :)
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Can anyone tell me where can i get the Ginan "Dasbateiyan"?
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goldfaizi wrote:Can anyone tell me where can i get the Ginan "Dasbateiyan"?
This is the Ginan....

SUNO SUNO MOMANO SUN MAN LAAVANAA - BY PEER SHAMS

suno suno momano sun man laavanaa, sune sareekhee baateeaa(n) jee;
kiyaamat kaa ddar bohot man laavanaa,
aap ddaraao chhaateeaa(n) jee.

aa(n)khe nabee mahamad jabareel ku(n),
ketee bher hae tujhe aanaa jee;
mujh peechhe duneeaa me(n), ketee bher hae tujhe aanaa jee;
aa(n)khe jabarail suno nabee mahamad,
das bher hae mujhe aanaa jee......................................1

Listen, listen, o believers, listen and mark well these words which are worthy of heed. Call to mind the great terror of the Resurrection, and let your breasts be filled with fear.

The Prophet Muhammad said to Gabriel: how many times are you to come - after me, how many times are you to come into the world? Gabriel said: listen, o Prophet Muhammad, I am to come ten times.

paelee baar suno yaa mahamad, phir-kar hae mujhe aanaa jee;
paelee baar me(n) phir-kar aau(n)gaa, so barakat lene kaaje jee;
duneeaa me(n) se barakat le jaau(n)gaa,
so na raheve kuchh baakee jee.....................................2

The first time, listen o Prophet Muhammad, that I am to come back -the first time I come will be to take away prosperity. I shall take away prosperity from the world, then there will be nothing left.

dujee baar suno yaa mahamad, phir-kar hae mujhe aanaa jee;
dujee baar me(n) phir-kar aau(n)gaa, so mohobat lene kaaje jee;
duneeaa me(n) se mohobat le jaau(n)gaa,
sab bemohobat ho jaave jee........................................3

The second time, listen o Prophet Muhammad, that I am to come back - the second time I come back will be to take away love. I shall take away love from the world, and all will become bereft of love.

teesaree baar suno yaa mahamad, phir-kar hae mujhe aanaa jee;
teesaree baar me(n) phir-kar aau(n)gaa, so rahemat lene kaaje jee;
duneeaa me(n) se rahemat le jaau(n)gaa,
so kann ochhaa teeaa(n) paake jee.................................4

The third time, listen o Prophet Muhammad, that I am to come back - the third time I come back will be to take away compassion. I shall take away compassion from the world, then no grain of it will grow there to fruition.

chavathee baar suno yaa mahamad, phir-kar hae mujhe aanaa jee;
chavathee baar me(n) phir-kar aau(n)gaa, so sharam lene kaaje jee;
aurat marad se sharam le jaau(n)gaa, sab ddhoraa reetaa hove jee..5

The fourth time, listen o Prophet Muhammad, that I am to come back - the fourth time I come back will be to take away modesty. I shall take away modesty from woman and man, and all will be like beasts.

paa(n)chavee(n) baar suno yaa mahamad,
phir-kar hae mujhe aanaa jee;
paa(n)chavee(n) baar me(n) phir-kar aau(n)gaa,
so sakhaavat lene kaaje jee;
daolat-ma(n)d se sakhaavat le jaau(n)gaa,
so na raheve kuchh baakee jee.....................................6

The fifth time, listen o Prophet Muhammad, that I am to come back - the fifth time I come back will be to take away generosity. I shall take away generosity from the rich, then there will be nothing left.

chhatthee baar suno yaa mahamad, phir-kar hae mujhe aanaa jee;
chhatthee baar me(n) phir-kar aau(n)gaa, so imaan lene kaaje jee;
imaanee to koee koee hovege, sab beimaanee ho jaave jee...........7

The sixth time, listen o Prophet Muhammad, that I am to come back - the sixth time I come back will be to take away faith. There will be hardly any believers, but all will become unbelievers.

saatavee(n) baar suno yaa mahamad, phir-kar hae mujhe aanaa jee;
saatavee(n) baar me(n) phir-kar aau(n)gaa, kaol lene kaaje jee;
raajaa to bekaolee hovege, so deeaa kaol na paare jee.............8

The seventh time, listen o Prophet Muhammad, that I am to come back - the seventh time I come back will be to take away promises. Rulers will become untrue to their promises, and will not keep the word they have given.

aatthavee(n) baar suno yaa mahamad, phir-kar hae mujhe aanaa jee;
aatthavee(n) baar me(n) phir-kar aau(n)gaa, so adal lene kaaje jee;
baadasaaho(n) se adal le jaau(n)gaa,
so julum hove tthaamo tthaam jee..................................9

The eighth time, listen o Prophet Muhammad, that I am to come back - the eighth time I come will be to take away justice. I shall take away justice from kings, then there will be injustice everywhere.

navavee(n) baar suno yaa mahamad, phir-kar hae mujhe aanaa jee;
navavee(n) baar me(n) phir-kar aau(n)gaa, so sabar lene kaaje jee;
duneeaa me(n) se sabar le jaau(n)gaa, sab besabar ho jaave jee...10

The ninth time, listen o Prophet Muhammad, that I am to come back - the ninth time I come back will be to take away patience from the world, and all will become bereft of patience.

dasavee(n) baar suno yaa mahamad, phir-kar hae mujhe aanaa jee;
dasavee(n) baar me(n) phir-kar aau(n)gaa, so kuraan lene kaaje jee;
duneeaa me(n) se kuraan le jaau(n)gaa,
so na raheve kuchh baakee jee....................................11

The tenth time, listen o Prophet Muhammad, that I am to come back - the tenth time I come back will be to take away the Quran. I shall take away the Quran from the world, then there will be nothing left.

aalam koee bujhe naahee(n), sab jaahel ho jaave jee;
elam ku(n) koee bujhe naahee(n),
sab leebaas kapadde pahechhaane jee;
reshamee kapadde pahen-kar aave, use khudaa kar maane jee;
ye dase baateeaa(n) sahee kar bujho, cheto bhaaee saveraa jee;
duneeaa me(n) se barakat mohobat sharam esee dase baateeaa(n) chaleeyaa(n),
tab keeaamat kee neesaanee jee;
peer shamas kala(n)dar eeyu(n) kaheaa,
aayaa kaaem shaahaa kaa vaaraa jee...............................12

No learned man will understand, and all will become ignorant. No one will understand knowledge, but all will recognise just clothes and dress. They will consider the one who comes dressed in silken clothes to be God.

Understand properly these ten things, and take heed in good time, o brother. When the ten things, such as prosperity, love and modesty have entirely departed from the world, then the sign of the Resurrection appears. Peer Shams the Qalandar says: the time of the Lord of the Resurrection has come.
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Thanks Kmaherali :)
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Post by goldfaizi »

In above Ginan SUNO SUNO MOMANO SUN MAN LAAVANAA - BY PEER SHAMS posted by Kmaherali, There are 10 things which Angel Jabrail will take with himself i.e Prosperity, Love, Compassion, Modesty, Generosity, Promises, Justice, Patience, Faith, and Quran. If we see notice then 9 things have been taken away from world. I think only Quran is left and The time Resurrection is near.
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