Just wondering, what if some souls dont achieve salvation in this lifetime? Wat happens to them?
Thanks!
Kaljug.. whats after this?
Kal Yug is the last Yug.
http://www.ismaili.net/granths/ginanhist.html
Read this History in ginans completely.
http://www.ismaili.net/granths/ginanhist.html
Read this History in ginans completely.
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With Reference to the Waez made by Abu Aly Aziz Missionary
After Kaljug there will be a SATJUG, this will occur in near future say withing 100years when there would be 2.5% of the total population would be good and rest of them are full of sins in some or the other way at that time Imam of the time will do his work (I don't know what that Imam will do) but after that the world again will become a SATJUG in which ABU ALY says that a Lion and a goat/cow will eat together it means that no body will snatch/fight with each other & about earth it has large number of years (may be 4 lakh yrs) uptill that earth will survive.
Please correct me if i m wrong at any point,
your feedback will be appreciated,
Yaa ali madad.
Please correct me if i m wrong at any point,
your feedback will be appreciated,
Yaa ali madad.
Name of the Imam during Zahurat.
The name of the Imam, day and time of the Zahurat is already quoted in our Ginans you need to read them, Alwaez Rai Abu Ali delivered a waez in Sugarland, Texas 4-5 years ago he mentioned the name of the Imam during that time, find that waez if you can from Sugarland and listen it and you will be surprised.
By the way almost all releigions are waiting for the Zahurat, Ishnashri, Bohara waiting for Imam Mehdi to appear, Hindus waiting for the 10th Nakalanki Avatar to come and destroy the devil forces( they do not know yet that 10 Vishnu avatar is already born as Hazarat Ali) Christians are also wating, so does the Sikhs, Jains and other relegions.
Our ginans quoted that after the Kalyug, there will be 'RATAN YUG" this yug will last 1.25 lakhs years, no sins will be committed during this yug, no devil forces will be there, there will be peace all over the world. no technology will be there, The lucky peoples who will be there need to start all over from zero although there will be not many human being left on earth due to war with Daint Kalinga.
By the way almost all releigions are waiting for the Zahurat, Ishnashri, Bohara waiting for Imam Mehdi to appear, Hindus waiting for the 10th Nakalanki Avatar to come and destroy the devil forces( they do not know yet that 10 Vishnu avatar is already born as Hazarat Ali) Christians are also wating, so does the Sikhs, Jains and other relegions.
Our ginans quoted that after the Kalyug, there will be 'RATAN YUG" this yug will last 1.25 lakhs years, no sins will be committed during this yug, no devil forces will be there, there will be peace all over the world. no technology will be there, The lucky peoples who will be there need to start all over from zero although there will be not many human being left on earth due to war with Daint Kalinga.
gur kahere gaafalo saa(m)bhallore lol.............................1
The Guide tells you, listen o ignorant ones!
evaa fogatt feraa tame shu(n) farore lol..........................2
Why do you get into such vain cycles of rebirth!
have nathee te rup agyaarmure lol.................................3
Now there will not be an eleventh form
(manifestation of the Lord)!
nathee kaljugthee jug paa(n)chmore lol............................4
There will not be a fifth era after the present age (fourth era)!
aaj paratak gur nar aaveeyaare lol................................5
Today the manifest Guide and the Master has arrived!
tenne maankhaa te rup dekhaaddeeyaare lol.........................6
He is the one who has shown you the human manifestation (of the Lord)!
te to paatra peechhaanno tame saartheere lol......................7
Recognise it as the Container (of light) o fellow dancers (or pure ones)!
naheeto tallsho te seerjannhaarthee re lol........................8
Otherwise you will stray away from the Creator!
pachhee pastaavo karsho tame murkhaare lol........................9
Then you will be consumed in regret o foolish ones!
jyaare paddshe te sarvenaa paarkhaare lol........................10
When there will be an accountability of all souls!
gur ghannu(n) kahe naachannhaarne re lol.........................11
The Guide tells a great deal to the dancers!
kem fogatt naacho tame murkhaare lol.............................12
Why do you participate in false (vain) dance o foolish ones!
gur ollakho to aana(n)d paamshore lol............................13
If you recognise the Guide (in his essence),
you will attain great joy and happiness!
tethee amar amaraapuree paamshore lol............................14
Thereby you will attain the timeless and eternal abode!
have kol amaaraa puraa thayaare lol..............................15
Now my promise is fulfilled!
evaa chhel-laa sa(n)deshaa sudh-dh huvaare lol...................16
Such a final message has become pure
(or has been understood)!
gur shamse kol dai paalleeyaare lol..............................17
The Guide Peer shamsh has fulfilled the promise having given it!
aaj aavee kaleemaa(n)he paravareeyaare lol.......................18
Today in the present difficult age, he has come and appeared physically!
I my opinion i dont believe there will be anymore jugs after this.
The Guide tells you, listen o ignorant ones!
evaa fogatt feraa tame shu(n) farore lol..........................2
Why do you get into such vain cycles of rebirth!
have nathee te rup agyaarmure lol.................................3
Now there will not be an eleventh form
(manifestation of the Lord)!
nathee kaljugthee jug paa(n)chmore lol............................4
There will not be a fifth era after the present age (fourth era)!
aaj paratak gur nar aaveeyaare lol................................5
Today the manifest Guide and the Master has arrived!
tenne maankhaa te rup dekhaaddeeyaare lol.........................6
He is the one who has shown you the human manifestation (of the Lord)!
te to paatra peechhaanno tame saartheere lol......................7
Recognise it as the Container (of light) o fellow dancers (or pure ones)!
naheeto tallsho te seerjannhaarthee re lol........................8
Otherwise you will stray away from the Creator!
pachhee pastaavo karsho tame murkhaare lol........................9
Then you will be consumed in regret o foolish ones!
jyaare paddshe te sarvenaa paarkhaare lol........................10
When there will be an accountability of all souls!
gur ghannu(n) kahe naachannhaarne re lol.........................11
The Guide tells a great deal to the dancers!
kem fogatt naacho tame murkhaare lol.............................12
Why do you participate in false (vain) dance o foolish ones!
gur ollakho to aana(n)d paamshore lol............................13
If you recognise the Guide (in his essence),
you will attain great joy and happiness!
tethee amar amaraapuree paamshore lol............................14
Thereby you will attain the timeless and eternal abode!
have kol amaaraa puraa thayaare lol..............................15
Now my promise is fulfilled!
evaa chhel-laa sa(n)deshaa sudh-dh huvaare lol...................16
Such a final message has become pure
(or has been understood)!
gur shamse kol dai paalleeyaare lol..............................17
The Guide Peer shamsh has fulfilled the promise having given it!
aaj aavee kaleemaa(n)he paravareeyaare lol.......................18
Today in the present difficult age, he has come and appeared physically!
I my opinion i dont believe there will be anymore jugs after this.
i have heard of "golden age" where there would be no violence, poverty , adultery , homosexuality , cheating , interest taking [ which is haram ], killing etc etc
golden age will start when the imam of the time and h.issa[as] will kill the demon , this is mentioned in all other scriptures except ismailism because we already have a living imam.
golden age will start when the imam of the time and h.issa[as] will kill the demon , this is mentioned in all other scriptures except ismailism because we already have a living imam.
In one of Abu Aly's waez, he mentions that we will have a war with Dait Kalinga which will be similar to Mahabarat. After Mahabarat, he states, about 90% of the population was killed, and the 10% left had to start from zero. The world was primarily dormant with no major activities. This went on for quite a few years. Then as the population started growing, educating themselves with the time, etc. etc. the world began to grew again, and here we are today. So Abu Aly says that there will be a war with Dait Kalinga, like Mahabarrat, where 90% of the people will die and this war will take place between the next 100-150 years.
Once this point, I also wanted to clarify something. I don't want to spread any false rumors, but want to know the validity of this. I was told that Hazar Imam was recently asked (about 10-20 years ago), when will World War III take place? In response, the Imam said, World War IV will be played with rocks and sticks. Again, I heard this via word of mouth. I want to see this somewhere in writing. Has anyone heard something along this lines before? This saying also is in alignment where Abu Aly says that humans will have to start from the beginning after the war which will take place in the next century.
Once this point, I also wanted to clarify something. I don't want to spread any false rumors, but want to know the validity of this. I was told that Hazar Imam was recently asked (about 10-20 years ago), when will World War III take place? In response, the Imam said, World War IV will be played with rocks and sticks. Again, I heard this via word of mouth. I want to see this somewhere in writing. Has anyone heard something along this lines before? This saying also is in alignment where Abu Aly says that humans will have to start from the beginning after the war which will take place in the next century.