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Ya Ali Madad Mabus

Read your posting (13 April 2007). You stated some interesting stuff which I would like to discuss with you via email if possible. Please do email me, inshallah: [email protected]

Ya Ali

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Post by zubair_mahamood »

Mr bagi or Mabus,

I respect you for whatever you are, I don’t have any complains against you…. I live with people who think Ismailies are Non Muslims, I don’t have a single Ismaili friend and in last two years I went to Jamatkhana less than 20 times….. Can you change my Faith by discussion! No Way Brother…. I didn’t get Faith by reading Books or logics or Talking to Ismailies…

As per doctrine are concern, I don’t find anything wrong in any Book ( Quran, Bible, Geeta etc……) for me all are messages of Allah… if I read any Book I get Allah’s message…. they are not many Jamatkhana’s in Paris so I often go to church or Musjid’s for Prayers… I feel comfortable in Church or Musjid as I feel in Jamatkhana… I feel complete when I say *** YA ALI ***! I feel blessed when I call ***Ya Ali*** Can u change my feeling by discussing with me! No Way…

I read books that are written against Ismailism not that books which are written for Ismaili but I don’t get lost or they don’t even make me feel insecure about my faith… Imam is Perfect and Complete, You or Anyone can’t make Him imperfect or incomplete… as sky is standing without pillars every Ismaili has Imam in his heart without any pillar…. If you want to make my feeling change then you are looking to bring sky down, you will never find even a single pillar Inshallah….

I still respect you….

Have a nice day!

zubair mahamood
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Post by mabus »

Ya Ali madad!

I've emailed you dear brother Baqi.

Zubair, I do not believe you understand. I understand that you are trying to be kind, but you do not understand nor respect our paths. We both have attained a level of faith, but we must have logic to back ourselves, both are necessary for a powerful Iman. There have been many cults and others so forth that have taken advantage of followers and harmed them, because these followers had only faith in them.

Both Baqi and I, we both have faith, but faith and logic are both necessary. I can have faith in anything, and that's religion, that is how Allah guides people individually in different directions. But to find the direction closest to him, a step above faith is needed, and that is logic and reason.
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Post by zubair_mahamood »

Mowla Ali MAdaad,

Talking of Logic! Be logical and make me understanding.

Tell me which faith r u or were u practicing..... and why are u leaving it and applying for conversation?

Why is that ismaili are on correct path? Not other?

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Post by mabus »

Ya Ali madad!

This is a good question, and requires a long and thorough explanation. Since I will be getting this question quite a bit, I will write an essay refuting the foundations of the other branches of Islam and proving Ismailism. Please give me at most a week to do so, since my final exams are this week. Insh'Allah this will be enough for you, dear brother.
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Post by zubair_mahamood »

Do u think other will accept your logical reply.....

If they accept then why are not everyone Ismaili?

I also advice you to remember Ya Ali.... I will write u tomorrow...
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Ya Ali Madad - which thread were you guys referring to?
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Revelation, with its varying names is, ultimately, above reason. All the great one's - may God bless them all, that have undertaken the path to Ultimate Reality, have arrived at this conclusion. And, more importantly, the rightfull Imams - may their names be hallowed, have stated so aswell.
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