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by imranramji2008
Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:14 pm
Forum: Current Issues
Topic: Ismaili facebook pages attacked
Replies: 17
Views: 15883

Re: Just ignore these trash.

In my opinion the true Ismailis should ignore all these trash. Sun can not hide no matter how hard any one try to hide it. Do not discuss or debate with anti-Ismaili person or groups about our religion and MHI, and one of day they will know who were on right path. The best way is stop reading or wa...
by imranramji2008
Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:55 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

"How important is Ali Allah to the faith of Ismailim? It is the essence of the faith. I will give you some examples. Firstly, in 1905 many Ismailis went to Imam Sultan Mohammad Shah and requested that he alter the word Ali Allah. The Imam replied with some very important points. He said that th...
by imranramji2008
Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:47 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

SAMIRNOORALI you said "Don’t you think I know that the Pirs were in the process of converting Hindus? As a matter of fact the Pirs were the heads of the dawat mission to all countries in which conversion was taking place, not only in India. No missionary in history could have ever preached unle...
by imranramji2008
Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:10 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

so the reason for not accepting it is that its a Christian concept? You know what makes Islam so different from Christianity? The fact that Islam doesnt believes that Allah the all mighty can take a human form. If we believe allah has taken a human form what makes us different then christians and h...
by imranramji2008
Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:40 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

so the reason for not accepting it is that its a Christian concept? You know what makes Islam so different from Christianity? The fact that Islam doesnt believes that Allah the all mighty can take a human form. If we believe allah has taken a human form what makes us different then christians and h...
by imranramji2008
Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:36 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

During 1982's silver jubilee homage ceremony - when alone with the leaders - Hazar Imam in his full regalia - raised his hand and said..I am Ali..I am Ali..I am Ali. Shams when did i deny that MHI doesnt have Imam Ali's Noor. When did i deny that MHI doesnt have allahs noor within him. Seriously. I...
by imranramji2008
Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:28 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

Re: Noor vs Personage

You samir noorali said "I thank ShamsB for quoting this verse. Its translation: The Pir is saying that he worries whether his followers will recognize the Lord in the human form. In other words will his followers acknowledge Allah as manifest in the human form." my dear friend you are forg...
by imranramji2008
Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:40 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

Imranramji: "Now if you say the light of allah has been bestowed o&shy;n Hazar Imam then it is a totally different concept and this concept can be backed within the quran and many hadiths."<BR><BR>Although we are all spiritual borthers and sisters, every individual has a personal rela...
by imranramji2008
Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:02 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

ShamsB wrote:
imranramji2008 wrote:
Pir has said in the ginan:
"Ek fikar munivar tamari che amane..manas rupe saheb jaan jo ji"...

Shams
english please
by imranramji2008
Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:46 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

First off i need to know if we are talking about the esoteric or exoteric meaning of "Allah Is truely Allah". I have heard it to many times that allah has taken a human form in the present Hazar Imam. This stance i cannot agree with weither it be the esoteric or exoteric interpretation. I ...
by imranramji2008
Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:41 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

shams it is somthing i have heard. i even tried to go to the literature desk in our jamat khana and they told me that MHI has banned the book. I would really like to read some of those firmans if i could get my hands on those. And because one uninformed person in a position of perceived authority s...
by imranramji2008
Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:51 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

shams it is somthing i have heard. i even tried to go to the literature desk in our jamat khana and they told me that MHI has banned the book. I would really like to read some of those firmans if i could get my hands on those.
by imranramji2008
Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:51 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

Re: What Ban?

Kalame Imame Mubeen is a collection of farmans that was compiled in 2 volumes. The date of these volumes states 1951, and they were complied in India. It is important to note that the authority that printed these two books was the Ismailia Association for Bombay. This was published under the full a...
by imranramji2008
Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:08 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

Re: What Ban?

Thanks Samir - Very well said and very well put - but I think this is falling on deaf ears in the case of someone like Imran whose intent is that of gathering a lynch mob against someone that are his spiritual brethren - and in order to justify his stance - is refusing to see reason. The action has...
by imranramji2008
Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:50 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

Re: What Ban?

Kalame Imame Mubeen is a collection of farmans that was compiled in 2 volumes. The date of these volumes states 1951, and they were complied in India. It is important to note that the authority that printed these two books was the Ismailia Association for Bombay. This was published under the full a...
by imranramji2008
Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:26 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

Re: Destroying the Pir's Words

There was an instance of a ginan, in question, that was banned; although there was no order for complete destruction. Such a book is still used for scholarly purposes and continues to be read privately. This ginan was written by a “sayed” not a Pir and so we have to be very careful not to confuse t...
by imranramji2008
Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:14 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

Re: Profit

ShamsB wrote:
imranramji2008 wrote:
ShamsB wrote:
by imranramji2008
Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:19 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

Nagib you said that the announcment was not accurate. Please tell us what is accurate.
by imranramji2008
Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:17 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

Re: Kill my baby

If I received a letter from Imam asking me to kill my baby, I would want to be certain it is authentic This is their baby. shamsu that is taking it to extreme both you and me know that is extreme. Ok lets say that the first letter was unauthentic. A second letter was then sent by MHI. Still i would...
by imranramji2008
Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:09 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

Re: Profit

Please show me the hidayah where the Farmans of Imam Sultan Mohammed Shah are banned - for someone that was in Jamat Khana during Chaandrat you don't pay a lot of attention do you? The Chaandrat farmans are Imam SMS's farmans, a lot of BUK farmans are MSMS's Farmans. Please don't make blanket state...
by imranramji2008
Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:41 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

Re: Profit

All things considered It makes my blood boil when people say that there is money being made from these books. Talk to someone who publishes books. Ask how much it would cost to compile and print a book of this calibre What is going on is just insane. Are people who manage this website making money?...
by imranramji2008
Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:47 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

it is mowlas wish that it be sent to london. Mowla wants it in london. And it isnt that the councel is cheesed off MHI is personally cheesed off
by imranramji2008
Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:10 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

i agree with salmanali. First off these books should o&shy;nly be available in Jamatkhanna and not public. How do you know that non ismailis didnt buy these books
by imranramji2008
Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:04 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

The announcement was not accurate. <BR><BR>In due time everyone will now the truth. <BR><BR>If you believe that God is in control, leave it to Him. <BR><BR>then tell me nagib the truth. Tell the community the truth if you know it. swear by mowla that these dispicable people in their true intentions...
by imranramji2008
Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:40 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
Replies: 207
Views: 1271920

kalam-e-imam-e-zaman

i cannot believe it. I personally at first believed that the councel members were up to their old tricks. That they were mad that they didnt think of publishing the farman book first and wanted attention. After the announcement this last chandrat i am totally convinced the publishers have done wrong...
by imranramji2008
Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:46 am
Forum: Padhramnis, Mulaquats and Didar other than Jubilees
Topic: AIGLEMONT 13 DEC. 2008 HYDAYAT
Replies: 56
Views: 468208

actually kmaherali we did have our own ismaili namaz during the fatimid times. We said namaz and at the end had all of our imams and did sajodidar at the end of it. do some research If you read my note, I said recently we have not had our Ismaili Namaz. I am not talking about Fatimid period. What a...
by imranramji2008
Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:00 am
Forum: Padhramnis, Mulaquats and Didar other than Jubilees
Topic: AIGLEMONT 13 DEC. 2008 HYDAYAT
Replies: 56
Views: 468208

Well then personally i think the namaz will become manditory and our dua will replace the tasbih. IT SHOULD BE INTRESTING TO NOTE HWO THIS WHOLE THING WILL COME TO PLAY In my opinion, Dua will always remain mandatory. Namaz will be optional depending upon the context as it has always been through o...
by imranramji2008
Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:46 pm
Forum: Customs and Traditions
Topic: Fasting
Replies: 424
Views: 797640

Re: Namaz

Just for the record..we have folks here freely brandishing the word "namaz" around.. Namaz is a word never mentioned in the Qu'ran. Namaz is a word used by Zorastrians for Fire Worship.. shams you sayed that namaz isnt mentioned in the quran correct but salat is and when we say the word n...
by imranramji2008
Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:41 pm
Forum: Customs and Traditions
Topic: Fasting
Replies: 424
Views: 797640

Re: Fast

Imam has only said that if you tie up an animals mouth that animal will also fast by not eating. Now if you want to starve yourself and you think you are doing something spiritual then you need to consult Imam's Farman of Baitul Khayal. Our Faith is esoteric. Nowhere do our Imams describe our Faith...
by imranramji2008
Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:26 pm
Forum: Padhramnis, Mulaquats and Didar other than Jubilees
Topic: AIGLEMONT 13 DEC. 2008 HYDAYAT
Replies: 56
Views: 468208

Ya Ali Madad, Do any one has info regarding this: After few months will there be complete new dua (or namaz) that will replace the existing one OR there will be certain changes in existing Dua? I think if the new Ismaili Namaz was meant to replace the Dua, then MHI would have indicated that as it w...