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From what I have heard (though not from the ginans), like mehmani is an offering from the murid to the Imam, juro is an offering from the Imam to the murid. For me this makes the jura all the more appetizing - enjoy the next one - yum!!!

I asked this at the other post but I think here would have been the best place - does it matter how loud we say haizinda (is it the same whether we just say it softly, or say it at a moderate volume, or should we say it loudly), but we shouldn't just say it in our head - right?

We make a certain action with our hand when we recite salawat, when we hear a pir's name in a ginan and when we enter and exit jamatkhana. We do a different one when we recite the kalima after the tasbih and another after the kalima when we say "jamatkehayzinda - qayampaya". And after our ...

I agree. Thanks for your reply, I really appreciate it. YAM:)

Thanks for the link.
Rather I should have phrased it: if we do not celebrate it as though it was the equivalent of dec 13, with the view that the noor of imam is everliving, why would we celebrate it at all other than to affirm our shia identitiy (and therefore just stick to hazar imam's birthday)?

Should this day be considered and celebrated as such?
Is Dec 13 more significant, or not?